Ladies and Gentlemen: Fortress on Grass with unused CY Moat Coupon.

Discussion in 'Trading Post' started by Cynic, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. Dyne

    Dyne Well-Known Member

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    @WorkerBee

    What are you trying to do? Just get the moat installed on your fortress or something else?
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  2. TrojanCow

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    Wow.

    What.

    Happened here.
  3. ReZon

    ReZon Well-Known Member
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    Nope, Les sold his 1st Anniversary mask for 17.5 mill to El Horno. I think that's the highest single item auction.
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  4. WorkerBee

    WorkerBee Active Member

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    Yep been trying to get a moat installed. Instead I just get the run around 24/7 from telamon. he doesn't answer me at all. I ask him.. "hey you got my cords?". he told me to send them to him a month ago. EVERYDAY I ask him he NEVER responds. He will respond to Zyler or appently anyone else except me.

    Really pissing me off. I keep telling him you know I want lava right? NO ANSWER

    All I ever hear is how busy he is. Well I work a 40 hr + job to. IM 30. I have a 2nd job I work on the weekends. Also not to mention all the crap I have to do as well. I'm busy to but I get time to get on here and play or have time to get other things done that I tell people I will do
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  5. Dyne

    Dyne Well-Known Member

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    ahh, im sure he's just really busy. With the patch coming out and the anniversary events, he had to come up with all of those scavenger hunt spots and deal with an influx of players picking prizes and all that jazz. Also, I'm sure they are hard at work on getting the rest of the patch content out, like the carpentry BOD's.

    I'm definitely excited to see the new BOD's and appreciate their effort in working on that stuff to get it out ASAP. But hopefully he will get to you soon and everyone can live happily ever after. I'd like to check it out when its finished!
  6. Blaise

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    For something that's still technically in testing/beta and applied by a single admin, I don't think you have much room for complaint. It's not like you farmed up the gold to buy it and were expecting immediate results for your hard work. I understand the frustration, but imagine being in his shoes with people constantly PMing him about things while he's A) trying to do his actual job RL, B) working on important aspects of the shard and C) trying to actually enjoy his life and not be people's whipping boy.

    Now imagine one guy PMs you every day about something unimportant like his moat and think about how you might react.
  7. WorkerBee

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    lol I think I have plenty of room for complain. don't had stuff out you cant do. Don't say things you cant get to. Isnt that what we are all taught? So I def think I have stuff to cplain about due to the fact I cant even get an answer from him.

    And Dyne iv had this cupon OVER a month. So the plan this , had to do that, this and the other. I have stuff in my life I have to do to I get it done. I get this is a game. But serious a month??
  8. Blaise

    Blaise Well-Known Member
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    This isn't a business and you didn't pay for shit. This is a free service he's providing at a financial LOSS, if that makes any sense to you. Demands about free shit in a free world is laughable. I don't even demand shit and I've been donating monthly for a long ass time.


    Perhaps he's chosen to ignore you because you've inundated him with PMs during a very busy time for the administration.
  9. WorkerBee

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    lol Blaine its called a response. Really why would u just tell me yes u have the info? AFTER YOU ASKED ME TO SEND IT? Blaine what you are saying makes no sense man. You answer people that you ask questions to. If you give them a thing for a deed to get done. I expect it to get done man. I don't sit on this game all day playing either. So my time is money.
  10. WorkerBee

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    LOL Blaise. stfu he wants everyone to donate. No buissness but give me money!!! LOL god make more sense man

    Oh you like the server donate then. So don't tell me this game isn't about money. Everything is life has something to do with it just like it takes that to keep this server going
  11. Blaise

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    My name is Blaise. You sent him the info, so now he has it. Now he will handle it at his convenience, not yours. I asked him to rename a reward trophy recently and I won't be asking again unless like 6 months go by and it has potentially been forgotten. You probably just got yourself put on the back of the list for badgering.


    Yes, donations help offset the costs of running the shard. He's not turning a profit (ie: not a business seeking gains) and if you saw the financial reports (that he shares with donors) you'd probably respect that a bit more.
  12. WorkerBee

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    Dude. idc what you name is. If I did I would spell it correctly. LoL. I posted on here to say I haven't got something done. leave it to this guy to come to the defense when he has NOTHING to do with it. SO just mind ur own business man. THe question of the moat not being built for a month was directed at me not to you so just move along and stop trolling

    And about a trophy.... 6 months later I would just forget. LoL why bother in the first place. Some people do get way to much time on here
  13. Melochabre

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    Holy crap WorkerBee! Telamon hasn't dropped everything to hand place your CY moat?! Telamon hasn't stopped writing code to automate the CY moat placement so that he can HAND PLACE your moat?! You definitely should make a big stink and pester him nonstop until you get results.
    /sarcasm off

    Get real dude. You're expectations of what your owed are unbelievable.
  14. El Horno

    El Horno Well-Known Member
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    @WorkerBee just let me buy that coupon off of you. 1 mil.
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  15. Hydrox

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    Well this thread went off the deepend.

    All I will add is that my reason for purchasing the property was to indeed have the moat. Tela has been an incredible admin coming from someone who was a GM on a heavy played freeshard. He's always been active in helping me with issues despite all the other players that hit him up constantly. I hope I don't have to wait a freakin month to get this thing installed, but i'm not going to lose sleep over it with that being said. I'm happy to play here and enjoy the game, being on the time I've seen Chris put into fixing things for players i'm sure installing the moat isn't as simple as one might expect, considering what i just found out was that they were initially bound to accounts, I'm sure it's a process.. I'm also sure we will both get our moats installed eventually and we just have to tough it out.
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  16. TrojanCow

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    @WorkerBee , I don't know the full story, but it seems you are justified in feeling frustrated. However, what I suspect happened was that after the frustration first struck, instead of staying polite and patient, you got testy. The human species does not react well to even justified annoyance and snark. It tends to make people want to do the opposite of whatever it is you want them to or just ignore you outright.

    Most of us on this shard have experienced this to some degree - sometimes you catch him free and clear and receive instant gratification and sometimes you need to remind him. Many times. Stay cool and polite, space those reminders out by at least a few days, and you will achieve victory.

    Thus spake Zarathustra.
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  17. Chris

    Chris Renaissance Staff
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    The moat coupons were intended as a testing item to help the staff develop the moat concept for addition to the server. However their placement is based on our free time to perform said construction and testing. With patch deadlines, events and other obligations patience is a must.

    Only two moats have been built. Darkwing has the original test one, and Cynic as one of the winners of a fishing contest a few months ago. Everyone else with a coupon was asked to be patient. When it gets to the point that a player tells me that we should have postponed the anniversary event to build them a moat I think the intention of having players help test the system has not worked out.

    Specific instructions were given to the players who were rewarded these items that they were non monetary items. However since they are being sold/monetized we will most likely have to remove them and replace them with a standard trophy and their owners be placed on a list to test the moat system once it is more fully developed and patched into the server.
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  18. Lightshade

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    I'll fight Chris till the cows come home on disagreements over mechanics and development. :p As such, I could understand heated and continued discussion over mechanics, but this is not over mechanics and is just absurd and pathetic on a level that is hard to tolerate in any way.

    I applaud Chris for being as polite as he was. I would have just called you a piece of $h!7 and told you to go #$%! yourself and your coupon.:oops:

    [​IMG]
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  19. Cynic

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    I just want to clarify something here..

    I was specifically told that I could sell my coupon if I chose to do so but it had to be made clear that moats are an upcoming addition to the server and when released would be free, thus the coupon 'should be' worthless in value. I believed disclosing this in my auction to be moot considering there was a large patch Q&A disclosing this directly from the admin (the upcoming moat additions for all).

    Also, I was never given a timeline or a restriction on when the moat would be installed. I guess I was lucky that I didn't have to wait as long as others.
  20. Hydrox

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    Apples.. Bunches.. Ruined... *thumbs*

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