Seeking clarification about IRC rules

Discussion in 'Renaissance Discussion' started by napo, Sep 23, 2015.

  1. Iago

    Iago Well-Known Member

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    I understand why you don't want to answer the simple questions I posed to you. You either look unreasonable or admit what you don't want to admit. That's fine, you're fooling no one.

    It's sleazy and misleading to write "everyone impartial that has read the log," when you mean two people because 1) it's almost certainly not the only two people, impartial or otherwise, who have read the log and 2) it implies a much larger number than two people. If you were reasonable, you would have admitted this instead of bickering about it. But you're here to bicker and whine and try to make this post about irrelevant, inane crap.

    I love how you somehow made this post about @bart simpson. Didn't he spurn your love like over a year ago? Get over it, this is sad and pathetic.

    I bet it was because you continued long after a warning was issued while feK stopped. You and Balla were the only people who continued talking long after the warning was issued. We agree though, Balla should have been banned too because his behavior was approx. equal to yours. Where do we set up the picket line?

    nope, it doesn't

    Not really, you want to be treated differently than how you're being treated. You are treated fairly. Here, you continued long after a warning was issued while the person you wanted banned did not. Elsewhere, you're treated like a scumbag because you are a scumbag.

    This isn't about unfair treatment or enforcement, this is about you wanting rules to be enforced differently. No one, you included, is kicked from #Ren without a warning (unless it's an auto bot kick). Just because you continue long after a warning is issued while others stop doesn't mean you're treated unfairly when you're the one who gets a time-out.

    The day ends in "y" and therefore napo is crying, complaining, and playing the victim in IRC.
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  2. Mes

    Mes Well-Known Member

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    Gobbledygook

    the logs right in front of you with timestamps yet you keep making the same argument

    and hey let's throw in some fake quotes and a red herring instead

  3. Iago

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    Mes, this isn't hard to understand. The timestamps are in minutes. Just because something has the same minute timestamp doesn't mean it was posted at the same time. You know this. I wrote that balla and napo continued for about 30 seconds after the warning went out. Thirty seconds is less than a minute, it's in fact only half of a minute. As you can see, the log starts at the beginning of a minute because the way people start on a full statement across two comments right on the minute change.

    I understand why you don't want to answer my simple questions and I know why you're going with "nuh huh" instead of a legitimate response. You're not fooling anyone, we've seen you do the obfuscate, ink spurt dance too many times. I'll leave you guys to your concern trolling.
  4. Mes

    Mes Well-Known Member

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    What the time stamp proves is that everyone spoke 0:00:00 and 0:00:59 past the warning. What you're trying to suggest is conjecture. Everyone continued speaking past DW's warning. It's not like Amfekk's lines are the first one's after the warning or that he just hit enter one time before he could read it. He submitted text three times. You're the only person that has said that balla, napo, and amfekk weren't all guilty of speaking past the warning. I don't know how to make this simpler for you.

    So you know - if you want a legitimate response from me try actually saying something. I saw it the first time when you said ink spurting. You claim I'm being evasive or not answering your argument - but I already did.

    So speaking of ink spurting - are you just stonewalling or did you have something else to add?
  5. Russell

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    lol wtf is wrong with you guys, I got a lifetime ban and I love it.

    "im sorry for calling you a f****t, I should have found a better way to express myself"

    ... bunch of fucking faggots holy shit!
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  6. Iago

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    It's not conjecture to assert what I witnessed myself. What I claimed happened, being someone who watched it happened, is entirely possible (and even supported) by the evidence available to you. That's not what conjecture means.

    You mean other than in my first post?

    Well bud, I can type comments for you but I can't understand them for you. Good luck with the rest of your concern trolling.
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  7. Mes

    Mes Well-Known Member

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    from wikipedia
    - a conjecture is a conclusion or proposition based on incomplete information, but for which no proof has been found.-

    you don't have the seconds and there's nothing to go on other than your speculation. ∴ you're going to have to come up with something better
  8. Punt

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    This seems pretty cut and dry. If the reason napo was temp banned was for continuing after the warning to take it to uorpvp, then Balla and amfekk should also have got the temp ban. I don't really see how anyone could possibly make a legitimate argument for anything other than that, unless they are being intentionally disingenuous or trolling.
  9. Vlar

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    Classic Russell the Verbose.
  10. napo

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    It's pretty clear around here that certain people have the blessing of the admins to do what they want, and others don't.

    Really, with the pvp scene mostly dead and admins backing people who break the rules and abuse people at every turn, I can't really say this server is worth playing on.
    There's such deep seated zealotry here that people can argue with a straight face that enforcing the rules equally is a bad thing. Well, in some cases, it seems like the rules aren't even enforced at all.

    Really this is a low point on the server. I've been here awhile but I've never seen things so shitty.
  11. Blaise

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    lol

    I imagine if you want to start paying salaries for people to enforce the rules like paid professionals, I'm sure Telamon would be all ears. Otherwise, we get what's paid for, of which the volunteer time of moderators is not. I've seen pretty much everyone in here kicked/temp banned at least once, I'm fairly certain. How about just stop going in main if you're not going to be there answering questions about the shard? I know it's hard to resist, I can't stop myself most times.
  12. napo

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    Staff members need to be paid a salary to read eight lines of text?

    It's not really just one instance, though. Some people can instigate as much shit as they want and nothing every happens to them. They get tournaments named after them and shit.
    The constant shit talk, vulgar horse names, and outright racism aren't a problem unless we show up to defend ourselves.

    What's the point of having rules if they aren't enforced properly or even not enforced at all? We should at least be up-front about it, they should just wipe the rules page and add a single line about how you're supposed to bend over for whatever arbitrary shit they come up with and how you're a terrible person if you don't agree because they're volunteers. That's essentially what you're saying here.

    I'd certainly have not been so happy to start playing here if I'd known that the rules here were only enforced some of the time and that I'd spend my entire time here being shit upon by Telamon's pets.
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    Superlative fail. You are absolutely not the only "one(s)" who get slapped for getting out of line. Stop being ridiculous.
  14. napo

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    That's not really what I was saying.
    I can think of a few people who seem to always get their way, and when they do mess up they "get a talking to" which seems to amount to nothing.

    For the record, you are usually not one of these people.
    Well, to some extent.

    The other side of the coin is that Telamon's boilerplate line for you is usually something like "he's blaise, just let him do what he wants". So I guess in that regard, you do get a bit of a free pass.
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    Sure, if you say so.
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    Here is the day that no one knew would ever come, the day we all banded together and agreed with Russell. Even the guys and girls that grimaced at him saying "f#$%^t" nodded and were like "dude has a point there."

    Man up, for shitssake.
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    I would guess that you got kicked for using the "F" word. Believe there is an automatic filter set for certain words. Again just guessing.



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  19. napo

    napo Well-Known Member

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    It's not a big surprise to see you in favor of lawlessness considering the number of alt accounts, scams, and fake auctions you run.
  20. bart simpson

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    Then it looks like you will enjoy spending your time somewhere else if that is truly how you feel. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    TBH though, I think you are just full of hot air and you aren't leaving... You just want attention :p
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