How To: run a dominant IDOC guild on UOR v.010

FYI you have 2 "3.'s" in your table of contents...

Two main reasons. A coup was attempted by Iago, the acting heavy who I passed the mantle on to when I was tired of the job. I went over his head to inact a consequence to a rule he made that was not being followed by anyone, including himself. The consequence wasn't the issue, because my only demand was that ANY consequence be added.

The second reason is the fallout after the fact. The coup was not successful and Iago was politely asked to chill the fuck out, which resulted in him quitting the guild in a tizzy. That might have been the end to it, but that drama caused more ripples of drama, and people said some things that made their true minds too plain for me to ignore. I came to realize that a faction had formed of "like minded bros" in which I had lost all respect and affection. As you know, I didn't care about being a bro or being liked; my only concern was ever keeping the apparatus running and healthy, and it never mattered to me if I hurt anyone's feelings to do so. So, their turning against me was not a surprise and not completely undeserved. My assholeness saved the guild from dissolution on more than one occasion (Iago was our only other member with the sack/willingness to actually confront members whose actions were hurting the guild) but I couldn't play that role anymore, especially when the majority of the group had turned against me behind my back. Right or wrong, I always felt that the guild was my baby that I saved from drowning many times, and it did not seem right to just leave it in the hands of a group that, with a few exceptions, secretly despised me.

Their narrative will be that I betrayed friends, but as the Japanese saying goes, the flipside always has a flipside.

How dare I "betray" the people who always hated me.

While Gideon was certainly being hyperbolic, inflicting a deep wound because he himself was wounded, the sad fact is that there is much truth behind his words. Even sadder is that I sensed they felt this way for a very long time, over a year at least. They certainly would have booted me in a heartbeat if they didn't need me to clean up their messes and process their pixels.

I am so proud of this baby I fought for for years, that definitely gave me gray hairs and plenty of UORage. I hope everyone appreciates the work and thought and the tears that went into its design. Regardless of its author's dastardly ways, I think this guide will serve to level the playing field and end years of accusations that we were a cheating, Telamon-backed group of elites that no one could touch because "the game was rigged".

I'm going to play the game for pure funsies now, and let Jesus take the wheel.

I have to admit, the idocing processes and organization put into it is quite interesting from the outsider perspective.

Thanks. I can't wait to dip into the part about "what we did right" and analyzing what our enemies did wrong. IMO that's going to the best part. UO is a game within a game within a game.

There certainly wasn't an attempted coup. At least not one I had any part of as I was offline through you and iago arguing.

Many months ago I changed the triumvirate from you, me, and fek, to iago. Because we needed a new era of leadership as ours was becoming frustrating.

You invented this Heavy/idoclord title within the past 72 hrs as I hadn't heard it ever said in 2 yrs prior.

Under iago we enjoyed prosperous months with as little drama as I can recall in quite awhile. You didn't stand against the decision to put iago in as singular leader, nobody did. So it wasn't a coup.

You made a power play to retake authority, iago quit rather than deal with you, and I came back to you declaring yourself "heavy idoclord" whatever that means.


As I said in our convo, I'd never steal from you and I had never considered kicking you. i left channel, remember? I think it becomes easier to justify your last 72 hrs blowing everything up by saying so but it doesn't make it true.

You cannot claim to be the protective mother of a group while also having done what you've done the last 72 hours as its contradictory.

Am I a good leader? Nope! Did I hurt the guild by questioning you sometimes? Maybe! Do I think I deserve this? If you feel like it, sure, why not? Don't really care just surprised the heck outta me. Call me naive but despite thinking you have no personality and watching you repeatedly swing your dick around at people, never considered you would blow it up and blame me. Good show!

My words which resulted in all of this were that nothing could stop us but our own pride.

Could I be more right?


Despite allllll of that,

LOVED our group, loved our teamwork, had a friggin great time. It all had to end eventually and if it ends with a kickass guide, that's about as fitting an epilogue as I can ever imagine!!

This! Best time I've ever had playing UO was my time IDOCing. I hope this guide lets others experience the same, as idocing the right way can be extremely fun and rewarding.

Might edit your first post and direct everyone to page two. Apparently that's where the guide starts.

Good read so far. I mean the guide.

And respect for keeping a group together that long.

I'm going to write a guide...

1.) Disagree with someone over pixels.

2.) Take any and all information that has benefited all parties involved and expose it to general public.

3.) Take privileged documentation that you did not create and expose it to the player base

4.) Use guide as cover up for the fact that your just a butt hurt monkey that's trying to oust the others in a final blow of disruption.

If you follow all the steps in this guide, you will successfully not only show the rest of the player base that you are in fact, a punk, but that you cannot be trusted with any type of information from any players who have confidence in you because when that time of the month comes your going to do whatever you can to throw people under the bus.


You'll be exceptionally good at working systems like this inside the game if you have daddy issues and weren't really loved much as a kid.

I have nothing currently to do with anything we're discussing here, and though it's cool to know that there is a system behind the madness. You look like a punk ass exposing people. This is the type of shit you get a swift left hook out over where I come from. B*tch move considering that sheet that all of this surrounds around, is NOT your property because you did not create it, affiliation doesn't equal ownership, and disagreements don't qualify you to do as you please.. If I was nominating you for the guide contest and saw you pulled this shit, you'd be immediately disqualified and i'd remind you once more. Your a punk.

Lol, Hydrox, you are quite salty for having "nothing currently to do with anything we're discussing here". One of the most interesting parts of this thread is the extreme grade of revealing the true behaviour and style of some benevolent acting vets. It's funny to see how their nice-guy masks falls off.

Oh yeah, and naturally, everybody that claimed that such a group existed etc was called a conspiracy terrorist discouraging players to play here.

I really look forward to the rest of the guide.

I was implying that I have no affiliation with the group this was a part of.

TC ran a vendor at Yew and I worked along side him, no problems seem'd cool, and the others I've known in the game but were unaware until recently obviously that they were behind it all.. Either way, the relevance of my involvement with them or not is blind to the fact that this was a bitch move. I hate spiteful people who will do anything to twist the knife a little more in a falling out or just because and this is exactly that.

G r e e d

He believes to have the right to do so. And he is/was inside that business.

You on the contrary say, you have no knowledge about the group and no business with them, but still state insider stuff like that it is "privileged documentation" he didnt create, that he has beef about pixels, that it is a final blow of disruption, that TC has daddy issues, that the "sheet that all of this surrounds around, is NOT (his) property", and that all the information has benefit all parties that you claim to not have known until now.

Can you see, why it is hard to believe you, Hydrox?

@TrojanCow :

Don't you think this group will go on without you?
I wouldn't pull any punches if I were you.

Also this is just interesting all around for me. A guild is formed whose only loyalty is to money. It's not entirely surprising that many of them secretly hate each other and want to accuse each other of stealing. And the clique you mentioned probably hate each other too. But this kind of self-cannibalism probably only happens one piece at a time. Did you have a moment where you looked up in the faces of your comrades and said 'et tu, barte?'

Anyways,

Before this iteration of the IDOC group, Hatecrime ran it and he said that the organization, spreadsheets, and macros came from Telamon. Do you have any comment about that?

If you're able to escape now then congrats...this is just a video game and it really isn't worth some of these guys clicking signs like it's a full time job. Remember fondly the good times, leave the bullshit behind and find something that feels less like work to do.

But thanks for sharing I enjoyed it quite a bit. I have no clue why SJ and napo's names would be relevant except they're obviously just curse words in that guild. It's not like napo would ever turn on his friends and he has no desire for uo wealth. But the parallel I see is napo was someone Gideon wanted silenced and now so are you.

I hope you are able to finish your guide. But I think we're going to see how rigged the system is afterall.

You know what I thought was a bitch move? When your response to the AFK reg buying gravy train possibly being gumped was to threaten to buy out all the regs every weekend. Kinda spiteful.

Anyway, I don't mean to be a distraction in this thread. I don't really care at all why this information is being released, except to say that this guide, regardless as to the motivations for its release, stands to offer a ton of VERY useful information to the entire shard. This is a good thing for everyone (except admittedly the other 7 people in the former group).

Amazing guide +1

It's just a copy of the same setup we used to use back on Second Age, passed down over the years thru many of hands by now im sure

First off. I didn't know he actually has daddy issues, I say that about strippers all the time.

Spiteful? I disagree, though we're all entitled to our own opinions, I believe that making a statement about how it's more beneficial to players that we macro buying in one town rather than keep all the vendor houses empty all the time. I believe I do recall one said weekend where I did have to restock for quite a few hours with my packhorse, and due to complains or concerns with new players not being able to aquire regs, i moved to vesper, a place no one really plays, then i move to another place because people complained about that, and now people are also complaining about the afk gump and at the end of the day. It's still those same people doing the same thing. Complaining.

The reality of it is is that i play to be a merchant. I stay to one place, and even if i did not, please explain how it's a bitch move that if purchase goods everywhere in the game that sells them??? I've also defended the AFK gump menu because it wouldn't affect me and my business.

1.) Anyone looking at this can see it was Priviliedged documentation, it's got char's names and alias's on it!
2.) Already apologized for assuming he had daddy issues
3.) The fact that the guide wasn't his to post was previous mentioned earlier in the thread aswell. You indirectly asked this already.
4.) I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to play a game, enjoy it, give back to new players so they can enjoy it. Will I give anything to any player that needs a hand or asks for help? Sure? Am I going to tell them they're a clown when i think they are? Sure thing.

I would have full support of this guide if the members that were associated with the guild and system agreed to come together and build one of the baddest assed guilde guides to ever have been created. The fact that this was done out of "spite"... Gets a thumbs down just like batman vs superman and I could give a shit less if someone things i'm wrong about it. Go into the trash talk channel and talk politics if you wanna get into a defensive argument.