Give UP about this Shard!

Honestly... it isn't.

I've read many complains about that in the forums and also seen this in my fights/duels. It just gets ignored.

Otherwise ill agree with everything.

I'd like to nominate this thread for Thread of the Year 2017.

Impressive work for a 3 day old account!

This dude is a straight savage!

Gee, you're quitting, mate? Certainly hope it had nothing to do with this:
http://uorforum.com/threads/cullinarn-the-pk-of-justice-and-decorative-lamps.29143/

So now after ticking off a great number of the players, you've decided to go after the staff? Bold play.

The idea that someone who has played here for two weeks is willing to criticize @Chris, who has invested the past 6 years of his life building the best shard any of us have ever seen, and tirelessly ministering to us when we have tech issues, questions, etc. demonstrates a class of arrogance beyond the merely delusional. But it's of a piece with the rest. Still, if "just saying that wjat u can do its leave... like some others done!" there isn't much I can do to stop you, though I shall cover myself in sackcloth and ashes and cry tears of bitter loss. And so, there is but one thing left to say:

Buh bye.

The entire shard shall pour forth tears of mourning for years on end at this great loss! The heavens shall shake and the serpent throne shall crack! Armageddon is upon us, and all the mages in the world shall not possess the power to prevent it! Truly, I fear we shall not survive...

Reminds me of the sphere kids coming into irc every now and then only to cry about not being able to run while casting.

no, please don't

meh

Its hits with no damage, doesnt matter what dmg modifier (tactics) one has.
It happens against players and monsters aswell.

I've also seen hits with a new silver spear of force against a liche that did almost no dmg... not 0 but 4...5..6 dmg

Non-slayer weapons against players/monster did 0, ive unfortunately seen it while fighting..

While I haven't seen a zero hit from a weapon on a player or monster, that I can recall. I think reading between the lines of the OP's post - "Weapons damage, never seen a new two handed weapon give no damage on hit with 120 tactics!!!" - he is probably saying that the damage is very low. There does seem to be a pretty high delta between swing rolls, despite the weapon being used. I was hitting between 5hp and ~40hp on a brand new Verite spear. Then again, it's been too long and I can't exactly remember specifically how weapon swings were on OSI.

I can attest to the fact that the issue reported years ago in regards to Wrestling/disrupt still exists -

• Wrestling, when successfully landed does not always disrupt a player spell, despite the animation showing it lands on the opponent. This goes for wrestling in general, as well as a stun punch. If a player gets stunned while attempting to cast a spell, that spell should be disrupted.

I remember Chris looking into and addressing this and it was thought to be fixed, but the issue seems to remain. This may just need to be reanalyzed.

This is frustrating, but not as frustrating as getting guard whacked in a town that has guards disabled (Bucs Den, Moonglow during the town invasion..) after attacking a blue and he/she hops a gate or recalls to another town and calls guards. This happened post guard zone change recently and is still happening.

I have also never seen a 0 pop up when I hit.

It does not show a 0 ... theres just nothing happens / no dmg shows up...

I have experienced that too. You hear the hitting noise, but no dmg and no red number show up. Maybe it's simply a miss, but with hitting noise?

I vouch for this, I'd hear the sound for my spear but the other person could still heal themselves using spells.

I can attest to this aswell. But I just always thought it was like BlackEye describes it, a miss but with the sound of hitting, or some other nifty old-game-way of making combat more interesting =)

It does however happen kind of alot.

When I played UO in high school, even with GM tactics and swords, I remember this happening. Seems correct for the Era we are. Weird, annoying, but correct.

As Chris has noted before, that's not the era accuracy they're going for lol.

This was my take as well except not "make things more interesting" but a glitch

Did you see the white flash animation for parry?

I'm shocked at these responses. He may not have been totally accurate about some things, but his concerns are definitely warranted.
The young pup have some big paws on em and I commend him for speaking up. I don't know why we choose to ignore the many issues with dexxers here, but they do exist.
Don't get me wrong, I still believe in this server, and try to keep my characters logged to help support it, but I also just gave up on playing for the moment.
I don't know how to play a mage, and I don't want to be forced to do so, but it's the only way you can compete here. But like I said, I'm keeping hope alive. I have patience.

I'm still insist that the problem with weapon hits (among other things) comes down to the way random numbers are handled on the server. If I can swing from a min 10 to max 30 damage, it would be a common (but incorrect) assumption that checking the DPS over time to find the average damage per swing is 20 would prove the system is working correctly. This is not the case.

Let's say on swing the server generates a random number that leads to a random damage from 10 to 30. The distribution for this will be a straight line. There is an equal chance of swinging for 10 as there is for 30 (or 14, or 27, or any number from 10 to 30). This is certainly not how you remember the game to work. If you had played UO in 2000, or even UO today, I am sure you know that the chance of hitting at, OR NEAR, the minimum was extremely low, and the chance of hitting at, OR NEAR, the max was equally low.

One way to combat this and make the outcome more consistent while keeping an exactly equal average is to use multiple random checks. This is the reason table top game use many dice. UO is no exception, and each weapon has it's damage expressed in terms of "3d10+3" (for an axe doing base damage of 6 to 33). it simply means you roll 3 10 sided dice, then add it up, and divide that by 3 (taking the average), then adding 3 to that.

The more dice you add to the equation here, the less linear the distribution curve for the weapon's damage output. In other words, less dice = wilder, more unpredictable weapon damage "range". Take the war fork for example. It's known to be able to put out HUGE damage, but also known to hit for weak damage. It's because the proper dice roll for it is 1d29+3. 1 single 29 sided dice, + 3, so it's a linear distribution from 4 to 32 base damage. You could hit for max, min, or anywhere in between with equal chance.

This chart shows how multiple dice effect distribution curve. The higher the bar the more likely that number is to come up in any given roll:



The problem with dexer's weapon damage has been debated here since the server opened. It's even an ongoing problem on multiple UO servers active right now. RunUO's default code for this is simply incorrect. The only server I have seen to have managed a solution for this is <that shard that was popular before UOR>, and they did it through emulating how the T2A demo calculates damage for each weapon, and also by using a different method of random number generation.

I suspect one of two problem is happening on UOR. Either the dice rolls are incorrect, or using less dice than they should, OR the individual dice rolls themselves, coming from the Random class in C# is the problem (as it was with that t2a shard).

Dice rolls effect a lot of things. It might not be very apparent here for player that mostly play a mage. But there is clear evidence that, although dice rolls may be a problem here, there IS a problem with the random number generation. Anyone who has casted Gate Travel as a GM mage and fizzled 5 times in a row has experience this. There should be a 50% chance to cast the spell. The chance to fizzle 5 in a row should be 0.5^5 (about 3%). The chance for it even happens 2 times in a row should be .5^2 (25%) and 3 in a row 0.5^3 (Just 12%). If you have casted the spell before, you have surely "felt" like it happens all the freaking time right.

This can be tested.

int limit = 10000; //Or whatever max number of tests to perform.
int total = 0;
int completeFail = 0;
for (i=0, i<limit, i++){
int count = 0;
for (j=0, j < 5, j++){
//UOR's actual in-use gate code here
if !(gate is success){
count++;
}
}
if (count >=5){
completeFail++;
}
total++;
}
double percentage = (completeFail / total);
//pring out the percentage variable here

This will do the test for you 10,000 times. I believe you will find that the chance of 5 fails in a row is NOT 0.5^5, and even increasing the limit to 100,000 or 1 million will not show a tendency toward it as well.