Triple Box PVM

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  1. jihad joe

    jihad joe Active Member
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    I witnessed for the first time someone triple boxing while farming and what a freaking joke that was. Gating from Shadow Wyrms to Ancient Wyrms to Balrons to White Wyrms and killing them all in seconds before gating off to the next spot. I've been reinvigorated with UO since I started playing again last month, but seeing the state of the economy and someone able to farm millions in a couple hours is nuts. Max Active Followers per IP? I'm surprised something hasn't been done to address this, or maybe nobody gives a shit.
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    Perception is reality.

    I don't agree with you. I don't disagree with you. My "perception" lately (which changes all the flipping time) is, this game is just a backdrop and you choose the play.
    Holy shit that was corny.

    What I mean is...




    You gotta find your own penis showing game, man.
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    This is exactly how I envisioned this thread would go. Talk shit, get it off topic so it's pushed into Trash Talk so nobody can change your game.
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    Triple boxing is part of this server. The server was created with the intention of being able to use all three accounts.

    Things, however, have gotten nerfed over the years once the staff appreciates how powerful any one aspect of the game can become when people get creative. See mining, for instance. When Telamon saw what mining was becoming, he nerfed it. Guys were using all 3 accounts, simultaneously, to make a load of money.

    Fast forward to the inevitable, guys are now using three tamers to farm. As time goes on, guys are going to become more efficient and maximize gold/hr with three tamers.

    I agree, it needs to be looked at. From what I understand, in a recent discord conversation, Telamon is looking into it. I disagree with your notion that anyone can be making millions in a matter of hours with three box tamers.

    TL;DR: It's serious but not that serious.
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    From what I estimated yesterday The player could average ~600k an hour in raw gold. That's before gems, leather and magic weapons.
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    I farm on 3 boxes often, but except for white wyrm, all the spawn locations you mentioned normally have fast enough re-spawn to keep a triple box busy without having to hop around. Unless they were like some sort of level 10 UO wizard my guess is they were hopping around to avoid PKs, or just for fun. Also, even when killing nonstop with fully trained, high-stat dragons, you can't make millions in a couple of hours. Does farming on 3 accounts make gold faster than on 1 box? Yes. But it's also a lot less laid-back than farming on one account, which I enjoy more for that reason. My vote (if anyone cares) is to leave the tamer mechanics exactly as they are, although some of the folks I play with likely disagree.
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    This is a Felicia server. Not a fan of triple boxing? Go find two or three friends and attack them. Most power gamers I know (including myself) welcome all facets of the server, including pvp.

    Don’t have three friends? PM @merlin8666. Last I checked he is still for hire.
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    It's not about what I like or dislike. It's about the status of the server and the imbalance of triple boxing vs practically anything. I'm fine with the little stake I claim from provoking things and running treasure maps, but it is disheartening to think about our new players discovering the best way to farm gold is running 3 tamers with 9 followers woven together with macros.
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    There will always be some sort of imbalance regardless of mechanics. Players with no kids, few real life hobbies and and an employment situation that allows them to play most of their work day will always be able to outperform others. Some players are going to be obscenely pixel-wealthy, while others won't be, but there doesn't seem to be anyone so poor that they cannot afford a house, regs, potions, GM instruments, armor and other basics that allow them to enjoy what the shard has to offer. I don't remember everything perfectly but I am 95% sure I got my first blessed rune book before I even started farming on a tamer.
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    It is completely about what you like and don't like, or else you wouldn't creating a post about it.

    Triple boxing ain't for everyone. I was here doing it back when we had well under 50 active players, good ole' @Blaise witnessed my shenanigans and the things I built. But that got old quite fast, playing an online game only to avoid people with a dragon army seemed pointless. These days, I find the players prancing around spamming pet commands as laughable as you do, but I don't obsess how others choose to enjoy the game.

    And regarding "What a new player might think": Anyone coming here in 2019 that's going to last already knows the trials and tribulations of obtaining wealth in this game. And not everyone's instant goal is to arrive and become as rich as possible as quickly as possible. Some play with one goal in mind, maximum gold per hour, but those players often burn themselves out and disappear.
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    Wrong. It's not about what I like and dislike, as previously stated. It's about the impact it has on the shard. I think it's awesome to kill an ancient wyrm in less than 5 seconds, but I believe it has an adverse impact on the server. Some agree, some disagree. That's why there's a discussion about it.
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    I would love to see anyone pull off what you witnessed, I still have not seen a single other person handle and manage 3 accounts 9 pets on one tile over the course of an hour and 3-4 locations. it comes out to like 150k-200k an hour I even offered you the gold so that you could see. Truly amazing gold per hour comes from one particular place and again. I still have not seen a single soul come close to my performance level at that location. What you are seeing is an exception not the normal.

    I will agree for most people 1 of those spawns is more than enough, but not for everyone. Do most usually go to 3-4? no, cause it was total overkill. I just like looking at new tiles and every gate has the potential to have reds set up on the other side ready to go. ( has for sure happened lol fuckers ) I dont mind providing a cheap shot to give you an advantage I mean i do have 6 dragons. as @Leopold said, you may not be able to win a bidding war but there is nothing you can't attain eventually by playing a single client at a time. i'd say it would take at least twice as long as triple boxing doesn't really result in triple the money.
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    You feel it's bad for the server. That's your opinion. Others don't. That's their opinion. Getting mad that it gets off topic because you want your opinion addressed is just the assertion that your opinion trumps others.

    I think it's fine. That's my opinion. I am not mad that you don't agree.

    @wylwrk reality is only perception as long as you don't accept anything as truth outside your own definition of truth. To say reality is perception is TRUE to those that don't adhere to that truth, but it's also the definition of chaos. If each individual creates their own reality, then there is no reality at all, and the minds of people can concoct some pretty scary stuff, stuff that should never be accepted as reality. We definitely need guidance to keep us on the right path. I believe that people aren't qualified to determine what makes a path right or wrong, it's too easy for us to stray, or twist things that we know are wrong into something that we call right, because we want whatever benefit said thing brings to us.

    How's that for off topic.
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    Well... you see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do and if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn them. Because, you know what? The musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throught the years were r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-eal f*cking high on drugs. The Beatles were so f*cking high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.

    That said, I find it even more humorous that my first point could be proven in that it was received by the OP as a troll post when actually I claim it's the best answer he's going to get in this entire thread past, present, and future.
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    RIP BH
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    The place for any and all discussion of the Renaissance era. Suggestions, improvements, research, etc.

    Getting off topic in this section isn't the place for it. I welcome all opinions of the topic. Not bullshit from people who have nothing constructive to say. Let's send this thread on down to Trash Talk. Thanks.
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    You're getting defensive because people aren't agreeing with you. You don't decide what other people define as "fun". If people want to triple box (which they're allowed to btw [something you don't seem to grasp]) then they're going to triple box.

    Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean you're in the right. You're not the first person to complain about tamers. Which is what this thread boils down too.
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    Read what you want to read. If you think the first few posts after this thread was created were constructive, then end your efforts here.

    Defensive.
    In my life I've been defensive once or twice, but not over a video game.
    And at one point in my life, I've controlled what was fun for others. But not through a video game.

    This isn't something I'm trying to take to heart as you make it. It's something I took to public forum.

    I appreciate your input, but no one needs the opinionated speculation. I've already addressed everything you've said. It doesn't bother me. It is what it is. I like my 2-400 gold a chest deep in dungeons. It's fun. But, I do think triple boxing has an adverse effect to our server. Did you comprehend that??
    More importantly, get on topic. Read what's already been said.

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