Second age thoughts

Discussion in 'Renaissance Discussion' started by Bluecrush, Apr 7, 2020.

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  1. Earsnot

    Earsnot Well-Known Member
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    I really think you’re massively underestimating how fucking lame the “PVP tamers” are here.

    No spells. Ok. But trust me, when you have 2 players tripple boxing and have 12 dragons or 24 mares attacking, even just melee -you - solo - alone.....you’ll just stop making the effort because that’s what happens here.

    Just search up the posts regarding the last few resurgences of faction fighting. Look at people’s complaints re the last Halloween dungeon instances, the GY’s. It’s people complaining about PVP tamers. Every time.

    I bet that 90% of the people here would be happy to roll around towns on dexers fucking shit up. But we just know that at some point, some fucking losers going to go and get his dragons or mare packs and it’s boring as FUCK. So this isn’t going to get traction my dude.
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    This would be money. No spells, no tames, no mounts--you can't even recall in or out. You fight your way down and fight your way back up. The only magery allowed would be from the mobs. I could imagine a dungeon like this effectively being the first three levels of Despise set atop the last three levels of Covetous with the addition of some kind of mini-boss spawn at the end.

    I don't know the time and the resources it would take to design and implement this sort of thing, but I think the idea is pretty fucking cool.
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  5. FartBarf

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    You're right about the exit teleporters/exits. After thinking about it, not having a dependable escape route would likely drive more people away than entice them to play in a dungeon like that.
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    It is nice to see that some chain of nice ideas rising from something that is very unlikely to happen but allowing and triggering them to come to life in the future.
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  8. Bluecrush

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    I appreciate everyone's comments. Lets say we use my original idea and only do it to one town. Britain. Every other town isn't affected. Maybe it can work that way? Instead of a change to the whole server. We just mess with a little part of it.
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    is a very radical idea... i am sure the staff crew is already working hard on coding lines to bring to us a NEW EXPANSION... that we are very excited to know more about... after knowing this... the idea of having only one city to implement your idea is more reasonable but i think still require some hours of programming, something i am sure the staff will not have...
    But well brainstorming is always good... who knows in the future we would have something similar... i remember in the past some suggestions about a specific dungeon for dexers and that was a very accepted idea... something in the same line... but keep going.. welcome back
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    This could be done without staff intervention. There are quite a few relatively empty towns where this could happen without having to meddle with the coding of the overall game. I still think the best compromises are to either make warring dexxer guilds or dexxer-only PvP events. At some point, we as players need to take some responsibility for satisfying our own play styles.

    What I try to remember when kicking this sort idea around is this server is built and maintained by people charitable enough with their time and money to do so. Ideas are easy to shout from the sidelines when we aren't a part of the actual development and implementation. Also, as One and Xavant have said, a version of your idea has been brought up in the past, was well-received, but is clearly absent from the current game. That tells me there was a reason it stalled. And I can only speculate what the reason or reasons could be. My initial idea is that it didn't get enough serious traction to catch Telemon's ear, but I could be wrong. This new expansion could be a way to implement a number of past ideas, and we're just spinning our wheels right now. I don't know.

    @Keza is a great example (from what I've read) of someone who spent time putting together player-run events, got people interested in his ideas, and now has a 'seat at the table'--so to speak--with a lot of the shard events. That's proof that staff here aren't deaf to players' wants and ideas, as well as proof that there is a degree of payoff for putting in the work to get what you want.

    I think you're starting correctly by sharing your idea on the forums, but now what more are you willing to do to get it? Your idea is absolutely doable. We had a saying in the military that you can "get anything you want, if you get high enough brass to sign off on it". The hardest part is convincing the brass that any change you want has reasonable return of investment for both them and everyone affected by it.

    Quantifiable proof is the ultimate trump card. If there are 800 people on this shard, and you can prove that 500 of them want zebra centaurs as the reward vendors, then your odds of getting zebra centaur reward vendors are pretty good. I know it's a silly example, but I'm sure you understand the point.
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    Random dude shows who’s quit three times already to proclaim we should make changes to fit his preferred play style.
    Lol, ain’t none of this shit happening.
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    We all take breaks Steady Mobbin I have a life outside game lol
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