Texas Holdem Poker? has this been discussed before? Ideas.

Exactly!

Servers different but the exploits would be exactly the same.

Like I said I would love to have holdem on here but it would almost certainly end up badly.

I agree that it could only work if it somehow had perfect security which just doesn't seem realistic. If you somehow could achieve that, it could work. Implement a rake system like a casino, where a small percentage of each pot gets taken out by the house before the winner of the hand gets paid. This would take gold off the server, helping to alleviate inflation. It may be possible for a new player to become rich relatively quickly after starting but it should be about as rare as someone walking into a casino with $100 and walking out with $1 million. Also for that much gold to be won by someone in a short time, it all had to be put up by someone who made a choice to do so and then lost it so the economy is unaffected.

As far as earning your place, it would not be the first way that one can become very rich very quickly. Numerous people do so using the market/trade forums. I can testify to a player finding a rare statue and selling it for $2 million in their first week here. Also IDOCing.

Especially as there's no potential for real-money gain, I highly doubt that many new players would appear who only played the poker tables. As far as players playing the poker tables and not UO, at least they're logged in and contributing to the server count which seems to be important for server health and growth.

I don't see how "exploiting" can be done with texas hold-em. It's not like gold is generated from a "video poker" type of gold vendor, the gold is swapped hands from 1 player to another player only. You cannot exploit gold in those circumstances. If one player chooses to gamble away 1m gold and lose it to a new player, that is no different than he trash barreling it or giving it to the new player in the first place, which he has every opportunity to do if he wants.

I'm not saying I'm for poker tables on UOR, nor am I against them, but the argument that it is exploitable just doesn't add up. If the gold was generated like a video poker game, for 2 pair or 3 of a kind, that would be different, but with holdem, its only going from 1 player to another. The only type of "exploiting" that can be done in that instance, is collusion. Which players collude on the forums to bid each other up already, so if players want to take the risk that 3-4 other players are colluding against them, that is their choice. Also, you can have poker on UOR without having it in game. Just have a few guys that are the hosts, gather all the money beforehand, play on a 3rd party website. Once the tournament is finished, have said hosts pay the winners. Problem solved without having to put it "in game".

I think there is plenty of things to do in UO already, but I really do not see any harm in poker tables. There was definitely certain types of gambling done in the middle ages. I'm sure they didn't involve little cardboard cards with spades and diamonds drawn on them, but they def had gambling. Plus, we already have gambling with the potted plant and cactus deeds!

Maybe we could make a Holdem Tournament in UO.
Certain day, certain time. 1 time buy in. Winner takes all

Any poker in any online game can be exploited simply by a phone call or text between two or more players in the game. Poker is physical cards and should be played as such. Jmho

we used to have chess until it broke and telamon couldn't fix it.

so if someone was able to break poker, it's likely that telamon can't fix that, either.

he needs to have help from actual developers, but he's too paranoid that everyone wants to steal his code and sell it to russians, so that will never happen.

just be happy with what we have.

Actually what happened is I had to collect Liberation's tears.....

i'm being frank! try to be serious for the few moments of the day that you manage to be sober, zyler.

100% agree, keep promoting people who do...well nothing and you will gain...well nothing

Ive seen poker tables already on other shards, and i didnt liked it.

Its a system that can be abused, and as other ppl mentioned already... experienced new players with good poker skills can literally get millions within days, which isnt realy the idea of this shard if you leave the table open for cashgames 247.

Adding a functional poker script could be a nice idea however, to leave room for Poker tournaments like once every 2 weeks or so.. that could be great fun in my opinion as i enjoy to play poker a lot

But a 247 running poker table is defenitly a no go.

ezra, as a counter-point, people like dyne come to the server and get sold millions by hatecrime already.

so what's the difference? at least poker players earn it.

As said.. i believe there is nothing wrong with poker tournaments on a regular base (like once every 1-2 weeks) people would still be able to earn theyr money there if you like it that way.

I wouldnt want to see an area where people could sit on pokertables and are completely safe from attacks and thiefes 247 however.
It wouldnt fit in this shards atmosphere either imo.

I vote for poker tables

By exploits I wasn't really referring to a bug necessarily like seeing other peoples cards. Cheating is very easy to do with this and I can guarantee a couple groups that would do it. Also cheating by yourself is quite easy to do and I am not going to cite how that is done either.

Server stability (which obviously was an issue as stated by a previous tester) is another thing entirely and pretty much stops the possibility of pokers inception dead in its tracks and quite understandably so.

A tournament rather than 24/7 cash games would be cool and would lessen the problem of various forms of cheating but nonetheless cheating could/would still take place even in a tournament setting. The effects of said cheating could be lessened given more people playing in the tournament though.

I really just can't see how it wouldn't cause more problems than it does benefits. I say this as someone that loves him some Texas Holdem BTW.

You and I (and others) tested both systems and experienced how they were unstable. While both would be nice "bonus" features to the server they are low on the list of what makes UOR more enjoyable. Think of all the content since chess and poker that has come in. The holiday instances for example.

Also, I don't appreciate personal attacks in response of a joke I assumed you would laugh at. I am open playing chess whenever you're available. We are evenly matched as I recall. You likely have or had more scrolls than I defeating me.

i made 1 billion on another shard via poker but my vote is for no no no and no. i can count u 100 reasons.
also all trammel areas like ctf and duel pits should be deleted and everything should happen at sosaria and run by players.

qft

Personal attacks is what certain people who were bullied throughout life resort to when they get behind the anonymity of a computer screen. You will notice that most people that are happy with their life and the way it turned out won't resort to bashing others. It makes them feel better about their own worthless lives. I'm sure you already know this, but next time someone directs a slur or personal attack at you, just smile and enjoy your life and be glad you are not them.