Solo PVM non bard template?

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  1. Cerwyn

    Cerwyn New Member

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    Hello, I am on the server since 2 weeks, pure solo casual player. I used to play on official osi shard back to 1999, now I am back, old and lost. :D
    I would like to have a first toon to re-discover UO, to build gold capital.
    After checking the forum, I thought a kind of tank mage could be the easiest.

    Started a toon with 50 magery 50 resist, final stat will be:

    Wrestling 100
    Tactic 100
    Magery 100
    Resist 100
    Eval intel 100
    Anatomy 100
    Healing 100

    I have no idea about the stat. 100/30/100 is a good one?

    Thanks
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  2. dreamer

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    More dex... go for at least 40... MB is strong here!
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  3. dreamer

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    Also, tactics is pointless without a weapon skill
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  4. Everlast

    Everlast Well-Known Member
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    There are so many better pvm builds

    Mage/ tame
    Mage/bard

    to name a couple, mage bar easy/cheap to build
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  5. Keza

    Keza Renaissance Staff
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    Welcome Cerwyn, I to re-discovered UO after not playing since the 90s. I started out with a similar idea as yours but quickly found one major flaw with it. Most spell casting monsters can combo you with a hard melee + spell for a near insta-kill. You can of course run and recast magic reflect after a minute but its a harsh and slow way to solo.
    Bards can solve this, but if thats not for you then maybe checkout an ossytank build.
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  6. wylwrk

    wylwrk Well-Known Member

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    When asking for template advice, most people think of end game content and build from there.


    Instead, what is it exactly you'd like to be able to hunt with this?

    Earth elementals all day long?
    Ancient Wyrms?
    Anything-That-Stands-In-Your-Ways
    Other Players?
    Locked Dungeon Chests?
    Treasure Maps?


    Or, if you're looking for casual content that doesn't require a bard ability... shoot, try fishing!

    Magery
    Meditation
    Evaluate Intelligence
    Magic Resistance
    Item Identification
    Tracking
    Fishing

    Then, to do the custom Ancient Message In A Bottle's here...

    Animal Taming
    Animal Lore
    Veterinary
    Tactics
    Archery (or maces if you're daring)
    Anatomy
    Healing

    100str 100dex 25int (use one nightmare for the Ironman Challenge)



    No bard skills where harmed by these recommendations.


    G'luck
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  7. Cerwyn

    Cerwyn New Member

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    Thanks guys for the replies!
    Actually I have no idea which monsters I want to hunt... Maybe it is anything stand in my way. :D
    The Ostard tanking looks very very fun!

    Is that ok for a tamer?
    • Animal Lore 100
    • Animal Taming 100
    • Veterinary 100
    • Mace 100
    • Anatomy 100
    • Tactics 100
    • Magery 50
    • Resist 50
    Also for the stat: 100/80/45 ? 100/40/85? I would like to heal/cure myself with the magery spell. And maybe flee faster?
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    El Horno Well-Known Member
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    If your going the heal by magery route, I would drop resist (your pet is tanking the spells), and either go 50 meditation or fiddle with that ratio to find a balance you like between having mana and not fizzling.
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  9. Keza

    Keza Renaissance Staff
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    You can build your ossytank character either way but I always go 100/100/25 for max DPS, only use mana for recall.

    Some builds I use:
    Keza
    Keza Axer
    Keza Ranger
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  10. Klaus

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    Is there a reason you don't want any barding skills on this pvm template?

    Bard warriors are really quick and easy to make.
    You can do either a peace warrior or a provo warrior. Both quite effective at dispatching foes.

    Peace or Provo
    Music
    Weapon skill
    Tactics
    Healing
    Anatomy
    Magery (for ass saving heals/cures/invis and recalling)
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    newme Well-Known Member

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    Hello.

    I'm not a pvper, but also a casual pvm player, solo much of the time.

    My main in game is a Mage/bard. With inscription. Her bard skill is provoke. fun build and can handle many of the monsters.

    All of the above is great advice. Think it basically comes down to what you enjoy doing.

    Don't need tame skill to ride regular Ozzys, just the frenzie ones.

    I'm Westra on irc and main in game is Marjo

    Marjo is Governess of Wispfelt Village and GM of PVM guild. ( not PvM guild )
  12. Solar

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    A good complex build between dexer and mage can be found and used as either pvp or high field pvp.

    I suggest the Hybrid

    90 str 110 str (strength pot)
    80 dex buffed= 100 dex (dex pot)
    55 int 65 int (bless)

    100 anat
    100 tactics
    100 resist
    100 (weapon skill)
    90.1 magery
    90 healing
    69.9 med
    50 eval int

    This build is a well rounded dexer that can summon demons and cast magery with 75% effective spell damage in combat.

    Casting prebuffs

    Spells such as arch protection, bless, agility, strength and cunning add +1 per stat/ac per 10 points of magery.
    This adds stats and ac with bless/arch protect spell combo's (If you have 90.1 magery the buff is +10).

    Deamons, Energy Vortex and Blade spirits can be casted and used as a "meat shield"

    Each hybrid character can summon 2 demons at a time and control them as if tamed animals while "thrashing" their way through their opponents.

    This build has the ability to heal while doing high melee damage and executing spells in either open field or close quarter combat.

    I suggest macing or fencing as swords do substantially less damage per second two handed.

    This build is semi cheep and very efficient for farming. It will keep you on the edge of your seat and hone your pvm skills. This is also a good build if your not the most sure about pvp and would like to experience a different angle.
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  13. wylwrk

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    .... to add, if using magery as your primary PvM skill realize that UO hates summoned entities (daemons, energy vortexes).

    Just about any worthwhile content will insta-dispell it thus rendering you crippled.
    Vote yes to remove dispell from NPC spell book!


    I approve this message.


    PS - potatoes
  14. Jupiter

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    You could go with your original build, but hire NPC's or go with @Keza's ossy tank idea.

    With your build you'd have to focus on keeping your NPC champions healed.

    Replace tactic with something else, maybe even archery, so you can do a little damage from the background while you heal.

    Keep in mind though, that pks will walk right over you.

    #1 defense against PK's = traveling in groups
    #1 defense again rage quitting = making friends with a group of people you like

    Happy traveling

    *Jupiter tips his hat and exits the tavern unnoticed*
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  15. BetaMovement

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    The second #1 is the only one you'll ever need. :)
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  16. Zim

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    tl;dr version: Make a PvP Tamer or make an Axer...


    Hiya Cerwyn. If your still reading this Id just like to add a few things that might be worth thinking about.

    PvM is all about maximizing gold INTAKE while minimizing the COST of getting that gold. This is why tamers are so good at farming. The pets are a very good investment. Once you obtain a pack of pets, bond them, and train them, they can literally kill hundreds of thousands of monsters and only require bandages (which are free) to keep going. A few regs here and there, but I hope you see my point.

    So that said, you should look at the more cost effective ways of killing things and cheap ways to stay alive.

    The two most cost effective way of killing things are melee weapons that are NOT bows, and pets. You can choose to do one, a pure warrior or a pure tamer, or both. Keza I believe is the Paragon of Lesser Pets and if the tamer warrior thing sounds like fun to you you should listen to him.

    For healing, you can beat bandages for cost. Theyre freeking free. Magery of at least 65 is a must in my book unfortunately because greater heal is SO much faster and will mean the difference between life and death. Once you actually start killing things, buying regs wont really be a problem. So magery will be your best bet when it comes to healing in the long run. Using your magery to supplement bandages is a very cost effective way to heal.

    So basically Id like to suggest that you either follow Kezas builds, or make a PvP tamer or a PvP axer

    Tamer:
    Takes a while to make, but you have the full power of a mage backed by
    a Nightmare or more. You wont need anything else.
    80str 100int 45d

    Taming
    Lore
    Vet
    Magery
    Eval
    Med
    Resist


    Axer:
    Cheap and relatively fast to make. You can start collecting so so amounts of gold after
    about a day of training. Really one dimensional. You hit stuff REALLY HARD with
    an axe. Thats about it.
    80str 45int 100dex

    Swordsmanship
    Tactics
    Anatomy
    Healing
    Resist
    Magery
    Lumberjacking
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