This isnt really the place for the whole "tracking is broken" discussion. That's something that should be consolidated into one post. 2 problems with that. (1) people who use my macro would always be at risk. Our boats never move except for inching one tile forward when fish run out. (2) if you know boat controls well, you know how to have a stationary boat be considered "in motion", easily.
To all the haters who say I want you to play within MY definition of what is considered playing: there are avenues to game play such as mining and lumber jacking that people do semi-afk point is I can at least find these people. @LanDarr battle mines with archer bots but the major difference is I can at least go find him on his patio I'm not saying all aspects of the game must be played on my terms, what I'm arguing is that fishing needs some damn changes and hell if there was actual viability to being a pirate I would be the first to sign up. So nerf fishing loot or change tracking but something has to be done! AND THANKS TO ALL THE AFK FISHERS FOR COMING ON HERE TO DEFEND YOUR FISHING HABIT! @Kirby @Zyler
One of the things I miss the most is being able to see on the other ship's deck (pre-optimization patch). I'd really like to see no item decay on boat decks (so lazy "afk" fishers leave loot on deck) and obviously remove the optimization patch for boat decks (so i can see the loot to pilfer it). No lockpicks required, makes sailing around far more interesting as you may come across an unexpected windfall. Also makes it more likely for pirates to come across someone with a fair amount of loot (miners or fishers).
Ok but again @TheUORnerd nobody AFK fishes. You can't AFK fish. And fishing loot can't be be nerfed. Its already relatively low. Basically you're trying to get rid of something that doesn't exist. While we're at it, I want to get rid of all the auto-bonded rideable panda bears that kill reds in one hit. We need to invent those then get rid of them!
did you not read my original thread? I clearly stated that clicking a gump once in a while is still afk fishing if you have netflix open and 3 monitors so can watch for gumps as you watch netflix that is basically afk. When did gump watching become attended playing?. And for the second comment what are you even talking about? no one is complaining about things that can kill pks. Im not the one here complaining about bonded dragons killing me or tamers being OP, a tamer still actually has to be in the world somewhere where they can be accessed where as the world of trammel ocean is vast and empty and fisherman camp certain corners to ensure even greater protection so I'm not even sure if tracking would fix the issue.
it truly does exist, you are just the prime fisher where mostly everything you do is fishing related. I'm basically saying THE OCEAN IS TRAMMEL FIX IT 1) either remove the incentives from the actual activity aka nerf it 2) provide avenues for people to find fishers (this point isn't a strong one considering I know spots in the ocean where no player can reach you if you create a wall of boats which you can place unlimited amounts of on any character).
I agree with the OP. We should be encouraged to engage with the world and other players, not sit AFK collecting welfare plat and other spoils at near 0 risk to yourself. Excuse me while I leave my toon's logged in to ensure I get my 30 plat a month.
You're picking and choosing parts of what I said instead of reading the whole thing. People don't fish to get rich. You fish for hours and MAYBE get a couple hundred k if you're lucky. Basically you want no income from fishing at all because you don't enjoy fishing. And again with the whole "reading some of my post not all of it" I'm not saying that only clicking a Gump makes it not afk. You have to fight monsters, and loot bodies. If you have a macro thats walking to corpses automatically and looting them after killing them completely automatically, then you aren't using Razor and should be banned. Basically you have a problem with macros. You dont have a problem with fishing becuase the fishing you describe doesn't exist. You dont know anything about fishing and how to do it or what you get from it. You are just making a bunch of bullshit assumptions that are fully wrong and are building a case with them. Actually now that I think about it, are you a politician?
Again the looting process can be automated just because you have not figured out how to work razor in such a way that it does, does not mean that you cannot automate that process. You can also control target ranges in razor and have your characters cross heal each other and have one of your 3 fishers as a dedicated para spammer while the other 3 spam ebolts so there goes your "the monsters are scurry" argument, and "dem serps be too far to loot" argument. You can also set up auto looting via restock agents, sure the razor macro would be complicated but any competent individual with experience with razor to such a large extent would be able to figure it out. So although I did ignore this part of your original opinion I did so for a reason because I did not want to get into the whole process of such a macro as it only further increases that problem of afk fishing. As for the whole "you cannot make a lot of money afk fishing" I never said it was a get rich quick scheme its more about Effort exuded vs reward. You exude very little effort afk fishing so people just say "screw dungeon farming I can just fish amibs on my boat while I netflix and still make good money".
Basically the only thing thats done fully automatically in a fishing macro is dclk fishing pole, target relative location. And if thats seriously what you have a problem with then your problem isnt fishing, its Razor. Word your complaint correctly, sir.
So you're telling me that razor has the ability to see what direction a corpse is from you, then run to it, and loot it, then run to the next corpse, fully automatically? Bull fucking shit. I know for a fact it can't do that
No my problem is that the rewards are high enough where individuals can basically say screw it I'm just going to fish semi-afk and make money that way. I mean if you TRULY enjoy fishing you would not care whether the rewards were high or low now would you?