REVEAL GHOSTS NOW !!!

Change Detect Hidden

Change Spirit Speak

But I am about sick and tired of being ghost camped, followed into my house and rezing inside.

Yeah yeah yah , I know all about table walls and ban bots and all the other ways to combat this from happening. But its my house, why cant I see who the fuck is in it... I aint asking for this for free, add it to a skill, allow my ghost house owner/co-owner to ban ghosts...

Currently the ONLY way you can see if a ghost is in your house, is if YOU are a ghost as well, then you can do fuck all about it.

ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE... RISE UP and DEMAND Your Rights !


If you aint with me on this, then you are against me... Remember any mechanic can be used against you as well by anybody willing to put in the time...

Ghost campers fucking SUCK.
Everyone can spare 1/5 toons from 1/3 accounts spare to be a invisible spy. It’s BS.

See, this I agree with.

I didn't even know this was a thing. I wonder if this is how my house got looted. A while back I had a lot of stuff in unsecured containers in a tower I was working to deco just up and disappear on me. All doors were locked and the only stuff missing was from areas accessible without going into any of the interior doors, which were also locked. I just assumed stuff decayed somehow, but wasn't sure why some decayed and some didn't, the containers were still there, etc.

And yeah, I agree, this is an issue that should be fixed.

There is a lot of ghosting going on lately...make ghosts perma visible at least.

Gm SS should make all ghosts visible, active use should banish ghosts without a corpse within 2 screens to the nearest shrine.

Edit - My idea made no sense. But some way to see ghosts in your house would be nice, even if it did involve a skill use.

I am going to get ripped for this but whatever. I personally wish housing was like OSI Trammel. Not just because of the exploits above but because what makes UO so unique is housing. I miss seeing creative deco and exploring people's houses.

Every house is an eye sore, with tables, benches and trash barrels everywhere. Not to mention the hanging key chains. And with the houses all be locked you can't explore and see people's creativity.

I feel like a noob. I've been playing for 4 years and didn't know ghosts could rez inside a house. Ouchies! I'm all for @LanDarr s proposal!

How do they accomplish this? Is it a game mechanic or exploit?

I thought you couldn't self rez in a house that is not your own via virtue?

Or are we talking kiddie-corner table barrier rezzing?

Also, I absolutely agree with past proposals that would allow GM Spirit Speak to reveal all ghosts, even those not in war mode. It would be useful outside of a home, also.

yes. Badly built table walls can allow a Rez at a corner. Push the ghost through with the owner, then the rez’er only needs to get into the unsecured portion - Rez the ghost through the wall, and boom, you are through.
Now, Landar got looted this way a few weeks ago, I think, so I can’t imagine he’d be fooled twice.

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KEEP CALM
AND
LEAVE GHOSTS
ALONE​

I didn't realise that there was this bug!!

Because that's what this is, a bug.
I'd spend 200 points to GM spirit speak along with detect hidden to see ghosts in my house, or in a dungeon (champ spawn)
This has always been a classic issue and it needs a new answer.

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There has been, and defenitly is a problem with ghosts inside a house.

Only ghosts can see ghosts, but only a living character can ban.
In return a ghost is able to scout weak points, and even be rezzed inside (as in landarrs case).

There could be 2 ways to address this:

1) Spirit speak to reveal ghosts, like suggested
2) Ghosts need to Tab/reveal themselves to see players/monsters - this would also solve the issue with ghosting dungeons and champ spawns and give house owners a chance to ban ghosts. Overall a little change that would solve numerous issues at once.


The problem with ghosting is, that it effectively only has benefits for the user, opens up A LOT of ways to grief people and has legitimately 0 counter play.

Definitely something that should be revised at one point down the path.
In my opinion, my 2nd suggestion would be the most balanced method overall.

I second this, although I would also like to add items, such as spawned rares, champ status skulls, other corpses etc after a radius of the players own corpse.

I don't know of any exploit that anyone is using.

I also don't know WHO has house robbed my houses and other. I can guess. I usually keep a low profile, but recently I have not. See some trash talk threads, the Azoth Museum thread. I could also have been targeted because of who I Champ with or who I IDOC with... Any speculations as to who and why is premature and irresponsible without more evidence and distracts from the issue at hand.

Simple scenario.

House has good security... ie table wall. I rez my dead toon right next to it but don't accept nor cancel the rez. Wait till you make deco changes. Wait more. Accept the rez when I think all is quiet. Begin house looting.

Now this is pretty random, and you could be waiting a long time. UNLESS you do a bit of upfront work.

1. Big house sales... you KNOW its gonna change hands and most likely the deco will change. Works really well where the seller has emptied the house and unlocked it for viewing
2. Know your target. When do they play? Do they update deco often?
3. Know all the ways you can legitimately rez… locations, diagonals, z axis etc.


There are many ways to improve your chances, any ghost can get inside a house and stay until THEY want to leave. Erza's second method doesn't defeat this. The ghost just has less information to go on when deciding to accept a rez