Faction Changes Mega Thread

It has been spread across several threads, and it was going nowhere. Thus, It is time to unite and push forward some changes. Please keep it exclusively factions related.

here is the list of some items to be opened to discussion:

1) Timers -------> 7 hours is way too long

2) Sigil timers ----> hiding sigils for 30 min and then reset

3) Abuses -------> using blues, bots, tamers, stealthers, infinite npc army

4) Bugs --------> teleport bug, problems with choosing commander

5) Imbalances ---> 2 guards in front of tb, entrances blockable by blues

6) Rewards -------> no real rewards

While I agree on most things and think hearts are in the right place, I think pressing the issue will only stress the lead developer and lead to a negative outcome.

Keep it as is. Factions will thrive or die by remaining "wonky".

A lot of people i know are about to drop factions all together. Why shouldn`t we stress the lead developer when everybody feels so strongly about it.

Yea all the above needs some work. One of the easiest solution would be to move faction bases away from the towns. Minax and SL don't have these types of issues/abuse available to them, simply by being outside of GZ. Adjusting times would help people that actually have lives and cannot babysit sigils for hours upon hours. Lets face it though, TB has asked @Chris repeatedly to block the tiles that allow non faction chars to teleport into TB base. Also the boat thing used to work at TB base as well.

Guys, no need for yet another thread. Chris said in IRC the other day that faction changes are being looked at in the same patch covering the future guild changes. When he gets closer to it, he is going to make an official comment thread.

We are aware of that. However, it doesn`t diminish the need to push it forward. I am pretty sure things to do piled up on Chris` desk but this is way more important than CuB imo.

But spamming the forums does nothing as Chris is already going to look at Factions. You've achieved your aim, it's coming up under review. Now you have to wait until that patch opens up for official discussions.

And whether it is more important than the cub/moat patch, well that's up to Chris, and he apparently disagrees. Plus since part of the copper system has rolled out it's a moot point.

Considering this is a felucca server with a large portion of pvpers concerned with this, warrants more attention, but I agree with you.

Alot of pvpers though, stopped going on reds just to fight more with like minded people in factions. This alone helps you pvmers farm n do your activities without "gank squads" roaming everywhere looking for a fight

Umm. I am neither a PvMer or Farmer. I couldn't even tell you the last monster I killed. I run a vendor shop that supplies everyone

make more boats... nau!

:wink wink:

Just saying in general. I apologize for saying "you pvmers than"

Holy cow!! Did you just seriously buy all of my boats? I'll certainly restock ASAP!

EDIT: I've thrown what I have readily available on and will put more up later tonight.

This could stop the town guards thing, but where would the new bases go? I think adjusting times would be beneficial as hell. Especially for the adults with new families, busy jobs, ect.

Lol they are all parked around Magincia Parliament Building. You’re welcome for the patronage!

Also, I don’t think terribly sweeping changes are required.

- Prevent guards from being walked into Brit Castle/Mag Parliament.
- Prevent being able to drag the sigil through base walls.
- Shorten the capture timer, since **most** factioners have a RL and can’t spend 7 hours defending. Even if it was trimmed back to 5 it would make all the difference.
- Make it easier for factions to oust inactive faction leaders. (Shadowlords needs this most rn).

The first two would be super easy fixes. Drop blue barriers in the water around Mag Parliament and an invisible wall for non-player characters and that’s that.

I don’t know the complexity of changing cap timers but I imagine it’s only changing a value from 7 hours to a shorter number.

Stealthing isn't an abuse, it's part of the game. You can track, cast reveal, use detect hidden, etc..


Surely you mean using random non faction characters to hide and block movement of players and/or npcs.

In freaking deed

Faction guards should be able to be attacked by summons and pets

Yep.

I'm feeling so conflicted over whether or not to be baited by your ridiculous signature lol.