Has your CY ever been looted? (By iDerp)

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  1. Earsnot

    Earsnot Well-Known Member
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    Yo yo yo!

    Question for y'all, 2 parter, and I'd legit appreciate your feedback.

    Question 1: Has your courtyard ever been looted/raided/robbed?

    Question 2: Was it iDerp?

    Asking for a friend.

    Bonous question: If your CY has been looted/raided/robbed - who did it?

    I'm asking on the reals though because in the year or so that I've been doing this I haven't once marked a CY of a spot I'm selling, haven't looted/raided/robbed a spot that I've sold or engaged in looting/raiding/robbing a CY of a spot anyone in iDerp has sold or know of a single incident where this has happened or been discussed.

    I'd like to keep this a civil conversation and salt free, if you'd oblige me that would be most dope.

    Thanks everyone!
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  2. Valrick

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    You looted my heart, babe!



    Fortunately my keeps were always well cared for and were sold from vets/trusted people. Never seen a single person in my cys that wasn’t invited
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  3. PaddyOBrien

    PaddyOBrien Well-Known Member

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    *knock on wood* mine hasn't been looted. I have been ambushed by elves in there before.
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  4. Valrick

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    Having to kill a fluffy in my courtyard without using gate travel was a horrid mess last Easter lol
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    PaddyOBrien Well-Known Member

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    i had an elf mage break into my keep when i thought i was safe ebolting him from the top... he teleported in and chased me around my keep then whacked me. I had to ban him lol
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    I logged in one day with a white wyrm wild in my Cy. Looked at its ID and on the uor website it was recently owned by sneakyt who told me someone in ocllo was opening gates to random courtyards and that's how he got in. Then he released a white wyrm in there
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  7. WarrenBuffet

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    I do not own a cy currently, but when I started here (this summer) I recall being warned about buying houses with cy's because a couple of groups would sell them and then loot you later on. I can't remember the names exactly but I believe iderp was one of the groups mentioned. Hope this helps :-/ or at least lets you know what has been said about iderp.
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    Iderp had at least once invaded/looted a CY of Punt and posted the picture in forums. They had beef with TT and thus messed around there.

    Apart from that, I know that people who would do that don't belong to the normal honor bound thieving community of UOR. They don't post it in forums and do it sneaky. So, I guess it's hard to tell who looted whom.

    To any potential buyer my advice: Definitely assume that all of your CY spots are marked. All. Do not trust anybody.
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  9. Earsnot

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    I don't even know who Punt is, I'm guessing this was before my time!

    How long ago did that happen dude?

    And also - I agree - never assume your CY is safe.
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  10. Earsnot

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    Thanks :)
  11. Valrick

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    anything Punt related is mostly 2015/2016
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    Not positive on iDerps roster but if bart simpson (not saying he was/is) then i guess that would count, but I'll note that he was not the seller. Came back to my screen with him and another's bounty's on my screen after having left my cy door unlocked and everything still in there from gate moving. Was still new to courtyards at the time and it was certainly a learning lesson.

    He offered to sell my stuff back to me but i declined as I was already feeling unmotivated to play at the time so I just took the hit and was already use to failing at house security thanks to Crooked Warden's break ins (Took me longer than it should have to take it more serious)

    After messaging bart simpson about it, he informed me that he had that whole area marked with runes due to a former (maybe not immediate) owner of the keep, despite me having relocated the entire cy footprint, but who knows.. maybe i just relocated it to an older spot.

    The seller who I believe is iDerp (again not sure what the roster is) had posted, "no def not secure CY but cub will be here "soon" lol can wipe yourself , it will be sold all together , I have a few people talking to me about it already in his thread" so I cannot blame him since the caution was very clear.

    I've come to realize that just about any courtyard purchased should be done so while understanding that it isn't secure, especially several years after the birth of the server. Even a semi-trusted seller who claims "never had a break in" even if they had it for a year I don't take seriously. Don't know if they had every spot blocked off except for one or two with tables, or maybe an old sheisty player returns after purchase who once had access to it.

    Anyway, I don't hate on players for breaking in and house looting anymore, whether it's door checks or having courtyard runes. I took it to heart for sure the first couple of times it happened to me, but fortunately I had a good support system that prevented me from escalating my initial decision making after it happened.

    What are we talking about again??
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    Bought one Keep from IDERP. history of the keep was explained to me, it was owned by a pk guild before that operated out of the courtyard, and it was dirty as hell. I shifted it a tile to the left, closed everything except the newtiles, and haven't been looted. Ive left stuff in there on purpose to see if it disappears.
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  14. Pirul

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    I placed the fort I live out of. It has been passed around guildmates/friends. I have left priceless valuables in the CY without any problem. I trust anyone who has had ownership of the fort will not screw me over, so...

    As for the matter at hand, I have never heard of iderp’s current roster screwing anyone over.

    Now about former members....there were some shaddy characters acting as muscle back then.
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    I bought the vesper keep from IDERP (as iderp) and was eventually looted of my unsecures by a player I've never seen before. I knew the cy was dirty as for over a year the property was occupied by blockers and any fool could have marked.
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    Keep it coming!
  17. Holden

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    Owned 2 keeps in my time. First on ice I bought from @Gideon Jura never had a problem. Second I bought from @Cero I had a harpy spawn inside the CY that's as exciting as mine have been.
    As a side note, I have a rune for the old A^T guildhouse somewhere, I might have remarked it by now. I acquired it when I bought a runebook, so empty your books before you sell them.
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    I treat every courtyard as if its unsecured. Even the one that I know is secured. I've messed it up before. its just not worth it to save a few double clicks. There were people that literally criss-crossed these large openings for house placement marking runes when the server opened. Some of those runes have been lost. Some have not.

    Treat them all as not secure till someone does a CuB wipe of the courtyard and you will not be disappointed.
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    It's funny that we are now trying to correlate CY/house looting with iderp...

    it's almost as if no one ever owned the spot before.. you know, kinda how an idoc guild simply puts the house back up.. odd.. hmm..

    So yeah, CY's are never secure. I've sold dozens of keeps and forts since my time with iderp, never looted one of those.

    Punts fort was something that someone had a rune to. It was not a property sold or even touched by iderp, ever. Bart was part of the group at the time and he griefed punt a bit. That was part of the feud at that time. Again, nothing to do with iderp or any house they placed or sold.
  20. Gideon Jura

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    House and courtyard looting is part of the game, but selling property you've marked with the intent to steal from your customer is pretty low. More importantly, it's bad for business. I tried to destroy cy runes I came across, didn't mark cys, and advocated against any such behavior while part of the original iderp. But looting a courtyard breached the old fashioned way (player stupidity) is also super exciting, so I might have participated in a looting here or there, who can say.

    As with most everything in UO, though, what happened outside my control, I really cannot say. Blockers generally leave cy space open for extended periods, but beyond that, the footprint often shifts, during the fall anything can happen, runes can exist from before, or people can compromise their new home and blame others. Or worse, some member of iderp can do their own thing without other members knowing (during or since). Iderp has probably had 30-60 members in the last 4 years. Most are your typical Sosarians, so expecting them to be perfect angels is naive. Some are total scumbags and shouldn't be trusted an inch (no offense guys, it's just the way it is). Holding them to some standard most of the general population doesn't adhere to is setting yourself up for failure.

    All courtyards should be treated as being completely compromised. House security should be all players' primary focus at all times with multiple layers of defense. Losses should be expected. If you don't take these precautions, you will incur losses and I will shed no tears for you.
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