Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in house

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  1. Liberation

    Liberation Well-Known Member

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    These spells help to reduce house-hiding in PvP and are a trick of the trade that I would hate to lose.

    They are basically the same spell AFAIK, so why don't you guys fix one of them and leave the other for Blaise and his resist parties?
  2. Mes

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    This isnt functioning this way to facilitate resist parties. My understanding is it is set this way intentionally and perhaps also temporarily to prevent some possible meteor swarming into houses that is outside the range youd expect. Essentially the admins have either identified or not sufficiently ruled out the existence of spots in houses where you can target a meteor swarm but it does not make sense to be targettable (like the center of a big house instead of the interior side of the walls.)

    So to reiterate, it is known, and probably temporary.
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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    Then one of them would be used to grief people in their homes, I think they are looking for a way to prevent it from going inside a house if you cast on the outside.
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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    I think they intend for it to be era accurate, but first want to be sure that the spots that should be secure are secure.
  5. Ezekiel

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    This is entirely correct. The nerf upon AoE spells, specifically meteor shower & chain lightning (earthquake excluded) causing them to nullify their damages to a maximum of 1 for any targets within a house-region is intentional. This is simply a precautionary measure to prevent the ability to exploit both the default design flaws of several Renaissance era housing models as well as a couple of the traditional homes, by use of the target relative location feature of Razor as well as other means.

    This has nothing whatsoever to do with players hosting resist sessions, and will be reverted back to its normal mechanics once said issues can be rectified.
  6. Liberation

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    Thank you for your response, Ezekiel.

    I don't appreciate this diversion from the era. Even small houses have three tiles that you can't hit with a meteor shower. This change takes away from the dynamics of the game, imo.

    Was there a poll or something to change this?
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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    Well I've only been here a couple months but it doesn't feel far from one. The admins are always appreciative of suggestions and constructive criticism, and those guys work hard on to make this server the best experience for the players that they can.
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  10. Ezekiel

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    There was no poll, this was an administrative decision & was done without hesitation to eliminate the possibility of house killing exploits.

    Any target which is within the normal standard range to be hit with meteor shower & chain lightning, could also be hit by the AoE effect of explosion potions, so in regards to this preventing the ability to house kill another player altogether, this isn't the case. If a player were standing along the walls of their house, they are still susceptible to damage & death by means of explosion potions. The only difference here is that damage from explosion potions has a height (z) limit of +/- 5, so it would have to be thrown to the proper location to function accordingly.
  11. Liberation

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    So why bother diverging from the OSI spec if it changes almost nothing in terms of available mechanics?
  12. Ezekiel

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    Because as it stands currently the range in which you can target both meteor shower & chain lightning into a house far exceeds that of the normal limitations in place during the era, allowing the ability to damage mobiles inside which otherwise would normally be out of range.

    This is why it was changed.
  13. Liberation

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    Re: Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning only do one damage in h

    Fair enough.

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