Patch 77 - September 12th, Guard Functionality Hotfix, Ocllo & Vesper Town Regions

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  1. Everlast

    Everlast Well-Known Member
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    I was thinking the same thing while reading all this. Just move the bank - and/or miners guild - whichever resolves the issue more betterfulyestiblyness.
  2. NerK

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    Another solution is the be move willing to lay down the ban hammer.

    If people continue to troll you and the server, ban them.
  3. scuba

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    He has this is part of the issue guy is using a VPN and creating hundreds of accounts

    This is why I agree with the changes for now but, once these are stopped I would really hope guard zone lines be revisited
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    seems like you'd need a subscription only model for the server to prevent the vpn stuff. Or at least some kind of manual approval process to slow it down. Neither ideal solutions obviously.
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    He's been banning people left and right. This solution came cuz that ain't working.
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  6. Nightwolf

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    Griefers = Admin. costs

    And it's impossible to get rid of every single one of them. Which is one of the reasons Trammel exists today, the UO live production team came to realize early on how much of a problem behavior like this was costing them (both in new players, and support team costs). You can find places online that have the Lead Designer discussing how much this was on their minds and even how he thought it should be handled. Interestingly his stance was anti-Trammel, anti-PVP on/off flag and supported the idea of player driven systems such as Town Stones. But he must have been fighting an uphill battle (cough Executives).

    Without drastically changing the game, the most ideal solution is simply having more manpower to handle these people. It's unfortunate that trustworthy help is so hard to come by and it all lands on laps of 2 people (maybe 3?). I can't imagine how much more difficult it would be if the server had double the population or more.
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  7. Sheepdog

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    What about a one time $1 "account administration fee"

    Done via PayPal that generates a code/key to create an account...just like that key on the back of the original installation cd?

    I know Chris doesn't want to charge or have a pay to play system but who here, genuinely would have HAD a problem with paying a dollar?

    That way all accounts are linked to a PayPal and if you're banned for town killings (or any other reason) the recourse is significantly stronger and your abilities to track and ban trouble makers significantly increases?
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  8. Kirby

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    Isn't there a reason why he can't charge us? Like a legal reason? I think someone told me one time that the donations keep free-shards from violating copyright laws or something.
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  9. Sheepdog

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    That makes sense.

    It also sucks, but it sounds legit.
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  10. NerK

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    Could you write in a code that checks the age of the account vs activity.

    if < 24h and they have a murder count they get banned? I'm brain storming here.
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  11. Sheepdog

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    Or if you have less than 12 hours "active" game play when you cast EV it says "Thou art too young to understand the concequences of this spell"
  12. One

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    Don't forget Blade Spirits.
  13. Sheepdog

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    Oh yea! Hah!
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  14. PaddyOBrien

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    Or keep young status on new players for a few hours at least? I'm sure they'd just let them sit there for the time but it might be enough of an annoyance not to want to go on murdering sprees
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    I think this would be good but Chris feels making it obligatory would stifle some players who consider themselves highly experienced (i.e. played for a long time, started well before the young program, or recently came from other servers) and ruin their classic experience.
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    Vesper being my favorite city, this proposed change is awesome! :D
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    Perfect, I would just change "young" to "immature". :)
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  18. Eskeleto

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    Ty for the hard work Chris n the Team! Just had a small gripe about the "More Active Npc's" Its made it almost impossible to battle mine in Delucia.. but on the other hand you feel much safer there now lol.

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