Patch 83 - September 25th, Minor Hotfix for Faction Atrophy, Critical Issues

Discussion in 'Patch Notes' started by Chris, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Hawkeye

    Hawkeye Well-Known Member
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    Zordak you complain an awful lot for someone who doesn’t help support the server. Looking back on your posts that’s all you do. Before tracking it was telekinesis then luring monsters into city events. You some kinda UO Forever or UO Secondage troll?
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  2. Zordak

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    If you want the server to stay broken, then I may as well accuse you of being a troll.
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    I just looked at his posts & hah, you're totally right.
  4. Zordak

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    If "Chris, fix Tracking, please" qualifies as complaining, I stand guilty as charged.
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    I think it's the tone. We're all playing in Chris's sandbox here, and he is great at creating good content. He's also pretty good about listening to the players. But demanding that he change it is, frankly, a bit rude.
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  6. Hawkeye

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    Actually Zordak you just ran past me so I guess your not just a griefing troll. ;)

    Heres a real UO problem. Go to work tomorrow and try expalianing UO to your coworkers. Then assuming that one stays around longer then 3 mins, tell them your tracking gripe. Now take a picture of the look on their face. It will be a cross between them thinking you are a idiot or insane. Oh and make sure to tell them it’s 20 years old and FREE.

    Every year there’s fewer and fewer of us. I mean the whole UO us not just Renaissance. One day there won’t be anywhere to play it. Enjoy it while you can. Not being able to track whose in 2 dungeons over isn’t the end of the sosaria.
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  7. Earsnot

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    Cool.

    You know you haven't once said anything decent, positive or beneficial the years you've been here.
    That's wild. If you want something to happen, maybe try and invest some time within the community? Engage with players? Get involved?

    You've been here complaining for 4 years dude. Clearly your current approach to change isn't working, try something different.
  8. Zordak

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    Trying to get a broken skill fixed, and a broken spell fixed, is a positive thing.

    And you're quoting me selectively.

    I've made it clear that I don't even track in dungeons and couldn't care less about that bug. Apparently you aren't paying very close attention.
  9. Earsnot

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    Nah, I think I got it pretty crystal fam.
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    Additionally, just for shits, giggles & context - my main has GM tracking & detect. I play that toon pretty much exclusively and use tracking and detect every day, multiple times a day, 40-50-60 times a day. Not even joking.

    I'm fine with tracking as if it, not saying I wouldn't love a boost. Damn straight I'd dig a boost - but I'm not sweating the when's and whys cause I appreciate Chris is a busy dude and we're on his schedule rolling at his pace.
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  11. Zordak

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    Well aren't you a cool cucumber? The fact that an error doesn't bother you is hardly an excuse to attack someone who is bothered by it. As minor as it may seem, the broken Telekinesis spell (which y'all brought up earlier) pretty much stopped me from being active on this shard for those four years that you mention. Now that I'm back, it seems like Tracking has been broken as well. And in my opinion, Tracking isn't minor at all. I usually make multiple characters with it. On this shard it's pretty hard to find people outside of Occlo, so Tracking seems especially important.

    If I just wanted to make some boring dexxer or tamer or tank mage or whatever, maybe these obscure skills wouldn't matter to me. But I don't play that way.
  12. Hawkeye

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    Zordak, I’m not picking on you and I mean this in the most sincere way possible. You stopped playing UO for 4 years because of telekinesis? Come on bud. What in the world do you use it for besides opening trapped chests?
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  13. Zordak

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    I already had a pirate on UO Second Age, and there I used telekinesis routinely. I was interested in this server not long after this server started, because Renaissance made improvements in Poisoning and Archery. Both of those skills were kind of lame in the T2A era (especially Poisoning). However, the broken Telekinesis spell discouraged me from continuing to play on this shard because it made piracy almost impossible.

    It seems like there also may have been fewer fishermen to target on this server. I can't remember for sure. I just remember that piracy seemed like a lost cause, and that was one of the main things I wanted to do.

    Now that Tracking doesn't work, it's almost impossible even to find anyone out there.
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    I don't think people are saying you have invalid points @Zordak.

    Just the whole berating Chris about how trammel his server is, isn't going to yield positive and desirable results as I'm sure it wouldn't encourage you to change something for the better if I were to insult you or something you spend thousands of hours and years on when the negative voices tend to be louder than the appreciative ones.

    Even if @Earsnot was being selective about quoted text, would you open an ear to an individual with that kind of tone towards you?

    Almost everyone wants what you want or similar, a boost in tracking. But I just don't see why you believe your current approach would convince Chris to expedite a change.
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  15. Hawkeye

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    Your right piracy can be fun.
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    I miss tracking being awesome too, but what does telekinesis have to do with pirating?
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    He's saying to open, thus loot, corpses on the boats. And I agree, it would be good to be able to kill on boats and loot people. But I think the policy on fishing is to keep it relatively risk/stress free for casuals.
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    Pirating is fun, indeed!
    Lots of players would love to do it, or have done it..

    http://uorforum.com/threads/uo-renaissance-pirating-perfected-ongoing-thread.21400/
    Tracking needs buffs on the Ocean for sure, or we need a different approach to piracy as a whole where more than a group of pirates would benefit from..

    Point is, it will get fixed... it has been adapted once and it will get futher adapted over time.
    With one developer (telamon) working on it, and trying to produce well thought out mechanics this can take a while to see just minor changes or stuff that seems trivial.

    Telekinesis wont change your possibility to loot corpses on boats however, and it wont change it.
    Ive done it in the past here... Ive had fun, looted some corpses, even managed to steal boats.. but you should get used to the fact that a properly placed corpse is off limits to loot. The best thing to do is to blockade the attempts of him moving away and to kill off alts he brings in to rezz.

    Eventually he will have to deal with you - pay you, whatever... or his sweet loot will decay.
    See it as a workaround, and be creative... PvM Tracking for example works the same as always and instead of ranting about not finding players you could as well track for "Monsters" and try to process the gathered information (ever tried to track for a shipwreck kraken, or blood elementals from WWs? Its the same idea, just reversed.)

    And 100 tile tracking is OP, you can say what you want... even more since it will give you a valid sys message at the end you can use for more complex macros.
    This should not be like that if you want a "balanced" setting, but i would not be opposed that you could track "reds" or "oranges" on 100 tiles or more... that could help to find pvp and punish pking a bit more.

    Anyways... long post... care less, play more. Its good that people stress it, but let me tell you that we will see changes in the future.

    Peace,
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  19. Zordak

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    If they keep the key on them, you don't have to loot it.
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