Template adjustment - advice pls

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  1. compsays

    compsays Active Member
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    Hi folks.

    So, having finally got a character to 7 x GM (it's only taken me about 18 and a half years.... :D) I realise that I have wasted points on there.

    Here's what I've got:

    GM Detecting Hidden - DON'T NEED (this was when the toon was a short-lived thief char - being a thief made me sad)
    GM Stealth - DON'T REALLY NEED
    GM Hiding - useful but I could potentially live without some, or all of it.
    GM Magery - I'd like to keep this
    GM Resist - I'd like to keep this
    GM Tracking - I'd like to keep this
    GM Med - I'd like to keep this

    I don't think I want to take up weapons on this char, nor am I very keen on anything involving music. I do want him to be a useful hunter (for medium-level spawn) of some kind. I wonder whether I could go Frienzied Ostard-riding mage? In which case, what would you do? I don't want to go full tamer and I do quite like the idea of ossytanking.

    Other ideas warmly welcomed.

    Your help is humbly sought, fellow adventurers!
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  2. Rextacy

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    Tamer tracker take out stealth hiding resist spells.

    Add animal lore, taming, vet

    This will allow you to find zoo quest animals for the zoo quest, help during special events where tracking is needed ect.

    Or take out hiding, stealth, tracking and replace with wrestle anatomy, tactics to make a heal stunmage for defense and pvp
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    Make new char for taming, don't start at 30.

    For the 3 skills you are looking to replace: eval, anat, heal
    or replace with eval and anat and keep hiding
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    compsays Active Member
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    Shouldn't I take out Detect Hidden and keep Resist?
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    compsays Active Member
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    ....and if I only want to ride/control an Ossy, not tame it, how much animal lore/taming do I need? Or, what would be the minimum of both? I'm guessing I need GM Lore in order to most effectively heal, so perhaps I'm asking - how little taming can I get away with?
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    Yes sorry didn't see that. Keep resist take away detect hidden . My apologies
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  7. wylwrk

    wylwrk Well-Known Member

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    You're looking to go the tamer (light ostard with vet) route without melee and dedicating 400 skills already?
    That's a shoe horn of a build you're asking for...

    400 aforementioned skills

    no taming for regular ostard

    animal lore
    veterinary
    evaluate intelligence

    You'd be one of a kind, I'd reckon then again, you'd have a very light pet that cannot be dispelled. You'd be limited on summon usage as they'd likely continuously attack the ostard, unless you time it right and mount often.

    If you're looking to get into frenzied ostards, you may as well GM that taming.

    "meh"


    A useful hunter minus melee or bard skills with GM magery?

    tamer, just make a tamer --- what's another 20 years?

    animal lore 100
    animal taming 100
    magery 100
    meditation 100
    resisting spells 100
    tracking 100
    veterinary 100
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    With the template suggesting. It's the best way to save some of those skills. Plus it would help on multiple scenarios.
    For defense keep reflect up, have pots set to hot keys, pop bags ect n you are good to go.
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    *pouts*

    But papa, I don't WANT to GM taming.

    I wanna ride a Frenzied Ostard, that I buy from a tamer. If I have GM Lore and Anat, what's the min. taming I need to stay on/get back on the fecker?

    Hey, I know this isn't anybody's idea of a "great" template, and it might be stupid to many, but it's what I wanna do.
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    @Keza would be able to answer that one
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    wylwrk Well-Known Member

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    74.7 and mask of the wilds

    or 77.7
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    compsays Active Member
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    Cheers.

    Ok. So the minimum taming is also the minimum to control? Sorry if that's a terribly n00b question. I never tamed afore.

    100 Mage
    100 Resist
    100 Med
    100 Tracking
    100 Animal Lore
    100 Veterinary
    77.7 Taming

    Not gonna do anything constructive with those additional 22.3 points, am I?

    Hmmm.
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    compsays Active Member
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    Maybe the flaw nobody's pointed out (perhaps because everyone except me knows this) is that for a mage I need something along the lines of 100/25/100 STR/DEX/INT but for anyone who's going to be doing serious healing with bandies, I want DEX as high as possible.

    Or......?
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    wylwrk Well-Known Member

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    meh

    Heal / Cure a Pet or Player
    ♦ Over 100 Dex = 3 Seconds
    ♦ 81-99 Dex = 3.5 Seconds
    ♦ 51-79 Dex = 4 Seconds
    ♦ 26-50 Dex = 4.5 Seconds
    ♦ Under 25 Dex = 5 Seconds


    with pack instinct max damage bonus set at 5 pets, you'll do more than handle "medium hunting" .... casual running around with one will see you through a bunch of content choices.

    there's a large selection of stat distribution available to you however bandage timer won't matter unless you float between 26 and 50 and tbh I don't feel it's worth it for half a second. That brings us to 51 for a full second's bandage pet bonus, which is pretty good.

    74/51/100 for magery influence (don't forget the HP bonus, you'll have more than 74 hp with this)
    87/51/87 balanced
    100/51/74 can still gate your pack out / magery used as utility

    OR

    without eval and using no summons, what do you "need" GM magery for?

    80.1 gate with scrolls - 100 = 19.9 + 23.3 = 43.2 = we lost in the minutia yet?


    I say, get to what you primarily want (frenzied ostard control) and play with it from there on the test server.


    G'luck and have fun!
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    Nice one. Thanks for your time, @wylwyrk
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    Drop resist for eval and you have a stealth pk'er.
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