My tamer stance...

Sure theyre OP but thats not my concern and i couldnt care less really. Sounds boring as Eff to steamroll everything alone in an MMO. People that arent tamers doing champs can NEVER get a skull or full credit in plat. THATs what needs to be changed. Maybe up the damage that mages do to champs so we can compete? or IDFK!

Nothing says "This is fucking awesome" like smashing a champ with your weapons for an hour or more, then getting dueced right when they drop. lol

The spawn along the way doesn't drop shit for plat it seems much either anymore.

Yeah, i mean id say hook dexxers up too but they cant even get at the champ to hit it due to 90 effin dragons around it. lol.

You can actually get to meph easily and safely on a dexxer, just bring lots of red pots.

Baracoon and Neira are a little more risky because the mob spawn, but I've done it. Rikktor is a no, but hes a no for tamers too. Oaks is possible to, but he isnt suseptable to a slayer, so iv never done enough dmg on a dexxer.

The harrower is very easy to dexxer, i bring one to every single one I attend and always get plat.
As far as pack plat goes, i run a dexxer on teir 1 and 2 of every spawn except baracoon, and i feel like i always get more plat using that char, it could just be chance.

I run a tamer on all teir 3s, and generally a bard on all teir 4s and i do very well on gaining plat. so i really only use a tamer 25-40% of the time on champs.

who cares about the tiers. im talking the boss champs. and you would never get a dexxer in on harrower from the 3 ive done, or the like 20ish champ bosses either.. maybe if theyre private guild ones you'd have a chance. Im not crying as ive done somewhat well in a month, but unless you 3box a tamer - a champ spawn youre kinda getting the shaft.

You can do well on a good dexxer template but mostly dexxer bards, because then you don't have to heal as often. If you're just straight warrior status, you're going to have a tough fight at most champs in the higher tiers. I tend to hang around bards or tamers and just help cut down the targets faster if I'm on a real warrior.

The harrower is very easy to dexxer, i bring one to every single one I attend and always get plat.
Its swords / LJ / anatomy / healing / resist / tactics / hiding
A decent wep + 10 red potions, chug through the dragons to your target and attack, hide when it dies to save ur plat. Its very simple. Positioning is key. When u stand directly on a target u pull agro, if u stand directly North, east, west or south u have a chance to pull agro. Stand Northeast, northwest, southeast, or southwest of your target and you will be fine.

Are you using exorcism slayers or is a simple vanq enough?

PS: Thanks for sharing the hidden knowledge.

you can kill rikktor and semidar with tamers. I much prefer tamers for rikktor.

Congrats, youve blown the point completely off topic. Dexxer or mage still aint getting an effing skull. =)

Why arent they getting the skull? Are you under the impression that only the top damager gets the skull?

Isnt that nearly the case? Isnt that stuff (also the rare statue drops) distributed according to dmg to the highest damagers?

I've seen people come in at the final 5% of boss life and wind up with the skull. I believe if you do enough damage to get plat, you are eligible for the skull and statuette too.

Equal rights to the skull are pooled between anyone that managed to get plat and stood close enough when the boss died.

Getting plat means meeting some threshold of damage comparable to the highest damage dealer (or atleast it used to.) So it's likely some band of players do enough to get plat and then another lower band of damagers does not.

Again this is all assuming it still works that way, it's been some time since it was implemented in 2013 and there have been changes since then.

My 'plat train' characters on my 2nd and 3rd accounts are archers. I know a lot of other people use eval mages. The only champion that I won't bring my archers to is Rikktor, and that's not because they're archers, it's because trying to keep 3 accounts out of his earthquake path as people kite him around is a pain in the ass.

On the topic of the Harrower, dexer or not, you should bring tons of red pots to that one. If you get pulled, you won't escape without some major red pot pvp.

My eval mages never get full plat on the regular champ bosses. So I assume im not in the pool for the skull based on how that works.

Are you ebing the thing from full hp till its death? Cause I use an eval Mage at literally every champ and harrower I've been to and have never failed to get plat a single time and we're talking possibly into the hundreds on champ spawns and done the harrower maybe 20+ times.

You have to be within a certain distance to the champ when it dies as well (14 tiles?). If you're out of range when it dies you won't get your plat or skull.

I've never brought a dexxer to any champ but if I did I think I'd do exactly what lutz does and just red pot through the dragons.

I generally bring an no dmg modifier exorcism something very cheap. I have done it with a vanq wep, but a very low end exorcism is still better.

This is still pretty much exactly how it works. The skull is pretty damn random to any damager.

Im not sure what "full" plat means. On the boss u either get the allotted amount or none. Certain bosses drop certain amounts (this is from memory) rikktor and meph 3 baracoon and neira 4 semider and oaks 5. Any other platinum obtained during the champ is from killing monsters to progress the spawn.

This is 100% true, i have never heard of someone using a eval mage struggling on any boss unless they get pulled and die, or a boss tele's to them and they die.

Can it be that the random champs in T2A drop more plats? I remember stealing pretty often 5 plats on drop. (@Vella )