So PFR has been banned or what? Why, what happened? Which rules were broken? I certainly can't find much any information about that, although I heard that he did write in the Forums. This is by the way important to me, due to personal reasons (I consider him a ingame-friend) and certain items that wouldn't be accessible anymore to me, if his accounts are banned (I might have provided some items for his return). The fact that a returning vet might have been disposed of in such a short time is also not really... encouraging.
I didn't see the forum thing either, other than the pic of PFR in the slammer. Was kind of hoping to encounter him in game again lol
One side of the story: He logged in after encouragement from several players in a thread to return to UOR. He ran around for a bit. Attempted to kill another player. Put in Jail Banned I want to know the other side of the story. I don't want any more drama. Doubt I can have both. I'll settle for a potato.
I have never pk'd anyone, having played off and on since minute 1 of the production servers going live, BUT I think Renaissance suffers from not having a professional like PFR running around.
Why wouldn't you just ask your friend (forum PM, etc.) what happened to him? And then, after you hear his side of things, you can use your best judgment to decide whether or not to continue his legacy of ruffling feathers by making vague accusations against the shard owner about bias and unfairness?
He was told if his intent to pk here he was not welcomed. Why his pk'ing as a SOLO person was such a huge problem to the pack of pk's every 5 minutes in the farming spots was an issue. He at least role played it in a rp game. He played 18 hours and banned after his second kill. From the posts it seemed people were a little excited he returned and not bitching about it. He is banned from the forums and game.
Because that INGAME friend (did you catch the troll-syndrome in the meanwhile or what happened?) seems to have been banned from IRC and Forums. First thing I did, was PM him in Forums naturally.
I can't believe this is accurate. I'd fear the popularity of this server, it's ability to recruit new players, and above all... it's mission statement has all been compromised.
Figured he wasn't forum-banned since he posted in the forums about being banned. Maybe he's just ignoring you (OK that was trolling) Anyways, totally makes sense that Chris would be cool with the first 4,688 murders but obviously he would have to draw the line at 4,690. Totally makes sense and that's probably all there is to the story.
Yeah I'd rather a solo pk vs the gate pumping out 5 people + killing one or two people before all 5 can contribute damage. I guess we will never know the behind the scenes if this is all the information we can muster up Not saying pk trains are a bad thing, I know how to farm wisely and never felt as if I'm being prevented from having a great time I miss pfr already.
It is definitely not good to leave people to their own conclusions. At this rate it's going to be a healthy August for IDerp.
[14:42] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> Hope all is good [14:42] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> I got banned while sitting in my house [14:42] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> he said if my intent was to PK [14:42] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> I am not welcome back [14:43] <Xegugg> wow did he not know that was what you did the past few years prior here? [14:43] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> He did [14:43] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> He later (in IRC, after several IRC bans today), claimed he banned me because I made a thread this morning after getting jailed [14:44] <PorkFriedRiceAFK> but he was already going to ban me since "I returned to PK"
I highly doubt PFR was banned for PKing.....lets face it people at any given time there are 10 reds logged on.
There's a bigger problem here, the group of entitled players who feel they deserve an explanation about another players account status. This is a "free shard". Otherwise known as a "private server". It belongs to the owner. We are all guests at his dinner table. If he chooses not to invite someone specific for dinner or if he chooses a dish we all don't like, who are we to say anything? Chris has his reasons and the real problem here are the ones stirring up drama on the forums in order to accomplish what? It only incites more drama. PFR went through his whole bit of hey err-y-body I'm a PK and now I'm quitting and I'm making a spectacle of it! routine, he left, yet that doesn't mean he shouldn't be welcomed back, but good lord man, move on.
Here we go with the ever-so-popular routine of posting pictures as responses because there's no reasonable argument that can be made. To answer: No. Not unless that picture means everybody is minding their own business. Then in that case, yes. PFR's status concerns him and him alone. Those who start trying to make it their own business and inciting the forums should be treated no differently than someone coming on advertising for another site, because neither action is healthy for this shard. We don't need the type of toxicity that drove everyone off that other place.
Recently a grouping of rules has seemingly been rolled out that hinges on one's intent. If you log in simply to do something "bad" you may get a stern talking to or a ban, as we see here. Many people in my group have been told that if the only reason they're logging in is to cause trouble (and by trouble I mean killing certain people, calling out spawns in IRC, etc) that action will be taken against them. I was banned from IRC in one such instance - I found a champ spawn, logged on to IRC to announce it, and was banned. The rationale I was given is that because I logged in IRC only to call out their spawn and make them angry (and this is true, that was very much my intent) that was against the rules. This seems to be the case with PFR. Since PFR's only interests lie in killing as many people as possible, it seems that he was aggressively asked not to return. Moral of the story? If you're going to do something "bad" make sure to have a cute story about how you didn't mean to do it.
If your argument of it being a private server and the owner can ban whoever they want whenever he wants is valid, then you have no problem of it being highlighted as a recruiting point? Just because it's true doesn't mean it needs to be at the forefront of our every day experience. I was enticed here and joined for specific reasons many of which may have just been compromised. Requesting specificity isn't an act of entitlement, it's a natural reaction to needing clarification of what is for now a rumor. Your suggestion that we all put our heads in the sand and ignore it is outrageous. However, I do agree that Chris's business is his business. Should it remain as such, I hold no further stake in the incident. I personally believe there's much more to this than "because pking" reason currently under scrutiny. However, as a fan of this server I don't want the only information about the incident (gossip) to become the reason... that would be detrimental to the server's reputation. On this subject and your argument, I've said all I have to say.
