I was doing some research on armor, so I'd knew what my ideal equipment would be for my Lumberjack Dexxer. I was at thinking the typical dexxer suit that I see sold (closehelm, plate gorget, chainmail tunic/leggings, and ringmail arms/gloves) was the best combination for balance between dex and AR. That seems to be far from the truth after looking through the compendium. The seemingly superior option seems to be not only second to plate itself for AR, doesn't have any dex loss, and what I've considered some the first day I played UO newbie armor! Bone Armor, from what I understand, is some of the easiest armor to aquire, just kill some skeletons until you have complete set, buy a studded gorget and you have 29 AR. Plate Armor has 30 base AR, costs much more gold/materials, and with a dex loss of 15-16. This seems like a major in-balance, the most expensive base armor in the game is pretty much worthless compared to one of the cheaper and/or easier to get base armors. Should someone make the exceptionally crafted with the best material of the same armors, bone armor will triumph over plate by 1 AR if used with a close helm. What confuses me the most about this discovery is that nobody seems to prefer bone armor at all. I might see someone wearing a bone helmet for the look, but other than newbies running around with it, I don't see it as a standard set of equipment anywhere. This boggles the mind, why isn't very dexxer out there using this set? Perhaps this hideous set is what people are hiding beneath their robes? Anyone who could explain why this isn't the meta around here or tell me how I've misunderstood this information would be greatly appreciated...
I think bone armor sets are de rigueur for anybody doing instance events. I don't see many dexxers in the field, so can't comment there, but bone is certainly used in the instance events.
AR is best if you use barbed leather and wear a studded gorget, I wear it on my battle miner, and have my own tailor to make. Think there is a lot more wearing it but clothes cover it.
Two reasons 1) meditation - if the character needs to med, they are gonna wear leather 2) repairablility - bone can only be “repaired” with powder of fortifying. Chain/ring sets are almost as good and easily repaired For reason #2, I wear Invuln bone on my insurance characters and such and Val chain/ring on heavy duty guys like battle miners
Invuln/fort bone in instances for me, non-instance running melee chars wear leather usually because they also have magery/some med
@Skydancer Made a great thread regarding the differences between armor sets and the unfortunate reasons why plate isn't used and some recommendations to make the metal armors more viable http://uorforum.com/threads/armor-shield-and-slayer-suggestions-retitled.32260/ Bottom line is magery/meditation is king for ranged pvp, tamer builds etc I think we all like the look of metal/plate armors but the cost to re-equip and maintain them is not worth it as things are now. There is also a neat shop where you can pick out various sets for sale if you want something custom http://uorforum.com/threads/carr-armory.32146/#post-313992 http://uorforum.com/threads/carr-armory-introducing-fella-plate.32305/
My dream is forge using some valorite ingots to make a plate. But the dex loss stop me. Think about it! how great will look the city with all that shiny and bad ass outfit? this is a medieval aesthetic game right? Where are the paladins? They looks better than that trammel guys with your dyed stuff. Really excite me the idea of making my own weapons... but with the runic so expensive(they could be found in high end chests for ex.) + Bone armors so efficient + so much dex loss... the Blacksmith economy is falling. I am spending time catching ore, making some chainmails and selling them for ridiculous prices.. just because we dont have a market for it. To make bone armors more used, my suggestion is able mages to cast armed with staffs(black and gnarled sttaffs for ex.)... Why? This will create a new viable tempale, the mace mages.. and come oooooonnnn, you cannot imagine a medieval mage, a wizard without a staff.. even the liches use staffs on the graphics. Galdalf, merlin and all the mitology about mages the staffs was there! T H I N K A B O U T I T ! ! !
Having mages capable of using weapons while casting is completely overpowered, magery is already pretty much the essential skill in almost every build.
i am not talking about weapons in general. i am talking about STAFFS.. the lower damage mace weapons.. why they exist in this shard?
I get what you're saying, it'd be cool for aesthetics. However I think giving mages any more power, no matter how little, is not the best thing to do. I don't think it would make bone less attractive to the meta. There's already tank mages who do exactly what you say, they just have a hotkey to re-equip their weapons after casting.(which I do for my warrior for when I cast cure and other supportive spells for myself) I think it'd be cool to let them keep it equipped for the look, but they shouldn't be able to attack with a weapon or get the defense bonus while casting.
I'm new to the shard and the armor most certainly threw me for a loops here. This is coming from someone who has been playing for a week 1/2 and is farming solely on a provo/dexxer. I use what I find... Bloods hit like a brick and honestly, I'm not interested in coming out of pocket for vendors. But you always learn the most by having the least at your disposal eh? I've made 4 containers in my house for armor: leather, studded leather, chain/ring/bone, plate. I generally only keep hardening or higher, exception to smaller leather/studded guarding pieces i.e. gorgets, gloves to complete more over all sets. gender:female(use all armor) stats are 90/95/40 and I pre-make sets of -5 DEX only. Which can equal a plate tunic, OR plate gloves, helm, gorget, OR plate gloves, arms. and I mix and match accordingly with bone, chain, ring, and some studded leather. AVG set ~41-51AC I DO NOT use platemail leggings. They are by far the worst. invuln plate legs -5 DEX/+8 armor? invuln plate tunic -5 DEX/+24 armor 3x better. BTW thats my noobish opinion how to rebalance platemail to be viable. Make the legs x2 the armor, still only 2/3 of the plate tunic but realistic and adds satisfactory gains to a whole set. 55 AC for max bone 63 AC for max plate? This is not really a post to enlighten anyone on how plate is good. It's mostly for those who are starting out and want creative ways to utilize the loot they are given. Especially geared towards the PvM dexxers.
Most armor is useless once you’re out of the newb stage. The changes wrecked armor and everyone knows it
This one wrecked Plate http://uorforum.com/threads/patch-59-december-10th-2014-merry-christmas.7803 http://uorforum.com/threads/patch-58-november-25th-2014-thanksgiving-combat-changes.7653
Hmmm.. dex loss values set based on pre-2000 values.. I am all for retro UO but I also remember tank mages... so not ALL pre-1999 things are good...
