Nox Mage

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  1. David Scraggs

    David Scraggs Well-Known Member

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    Anyone running nox mages here?

    I ask because when I left about a 1.5 years ago I had worked up to 91 poisoning. Im looking to change that template a bit since he already as 4 other GM skills i would need on the new template. I was using him as a poisoner and poisoning my weapons in the dungeons. It helped with casters but I dont think it was worth the skill points. Before I go through with this I want to ask about nox mages. How effective are they?
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    No, it currently has a low viability ceiling in PvP do to the difficulty of landing a lvl 4 poison cast in combat (need to be within 2 tiles) and the the ability to simple Spam Gcure pot to clear it.

    Most PvP mages are running some variation of Stun, like Heal/Stun, Scribe/Stun or WeaponStun+Tactics.

    If you wanted to try it, I would suggest a Stun/Poisoner, which would rely on the 4 second stun punch to get a good Explo > Explo pot > Poison > Ebolt > Ebolt.

    Maybe go on test before investing the ~200k to finish.
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  3. David Scraggs

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    The cost is why I'm having a hard time dropping it. I don't pvp at all unless it's with a PK then it's about a 50/50 win lose ratio.
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    So if you are gonna run this on a PK, you can get away with it a lot more because of most PVM targets are not going to either have very much potion stock or Resisting spells.

    The biggest gamble is needing to get close enough to your target to get the poison off.

    But at GM Poison (or whatever level), you can always cast level 3 poison at any range,which is enough to scare the shit out of people when they see the wall of red text.

    Do it. I would if I had more room for characters.
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  6. David Scraggs

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    Good idea. I hadn't had a PK since 1999 no shit. lol

    So I'll have

    the finished template will look like this

    poisoning 100
    magery 100
    med 100
    eval 100
    resist 100


    should I go fencing and tactics or stun punch?

    I spear can can wreck people if you can hit them with that paralyze
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    I escape 50/50 lol
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    This is where the road forks...

    I would say, if you want more viability with this template, throw fencing and 80 anatomy in for the stun and applied poison via weapon and you could probably reduce some of the skills liked meditation or resist to fit in SOME tactics for the weapon damage.

    Maybe something like:

    Mage 100
    Eval 100
    Poisoning 100
    Fencing 100
    Resist 90
    Meditation 90
    Anatomy 80
    Tactics 40

    Running lower INT than DEX for high swings speed, relying on Paralyze from a 2 hander and applying DP with either one hander or Poison cast.

    If you feel yourself relying on the Warrior side of this template more, could reduce Eval and still serve up decent damage.

    High skill ceiling template with a lot of options.
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    Im not sure it's worth it. Been playing around with it. Its fun but ultimately poisoning is useless unless you're selling GM DP weapons. Im not selling those so I dont think the cash involved is worth it. I stun mage probably isn't the best for PK's but nearly unbeatable for PvP duels.
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    Nox dexxer (fencing is my preferred) FTW if you want to play a noxxer of sorts. Nox mage is very lackluster here.

    I am happy to provide details if you are interested. This is a favorite template of mine, and not a useless skill if played right. I often hear that its useless due to cure pots, which yes there is no cooldown on cure pots, but that also means you aren't playing it right ;)
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    sure lets see a video of it.
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    I'd personally have more impact working with you in game, but in the meantime here is a video. I am actually playing a mage here. Its 2 mages, vs a noxxer and a LJ (who brought plenty of DP!) This was probably my most intense duel ever in UO

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    I have a nox tamer mage ... but he's basically just sitting on the bench unless I decide to take him fishing. It is kinda fun to DP a monster and stand back, and it definitely helps my mare to dispatch enemies quicker too.

    PVP .. I wouldn't waste the time to cast it unless you're 100% sure their magic reflect is gone.
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    Nox mage works very nice at fishing (which I do solo instead of triple boxing). Krakens (which can annoy with their firebreath) can not cure themselves and serpents are wasting their mana for cure. If you nail a DP it's fun to watch their attempts. :D
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    Im at 98 now. Grind grind grind. Slow ass skill to raise.
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    I run a nox mage...it's mediocre.
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    Nox dexxers are deadly. One of my favorite characters to play.
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    Here is what brought up the nox dexxer.
    http://uorforum.com/threads/poisoning.42874/page-2


    The good news is I GM'd poisoning last night.


    My template is going to be

    Poisoning
    Fencing
    Tactics
    Anatomy
    Resist
    Healing
    Magery

    Stats are going to be 90-90-45 unless someone has a better option. Im open to ideas for pvp. Im a rookie. lol

    Should I spring for a runic kryss or warfork?
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