a repost from my original brigand thread... 5 32'S, 33 2'W X: 853, Y: 1687 If one were to begin their journey at Yew moongate... they would want to follow their compass south [as in left down diagonal] until they reach the graveyard. from there follow the road straight down until the fork. take the turn towards Skara Brae and continue following the road for a ways. you will pass some ruins inhabited by lichs but they should leave you alone until you wander into the woods. the camp is situated on the south-western side of the road and cannot be missed. if for some reason you reach another fork in the road... you have actually missed it, and should keep going because there is no hope for you at all........ If one were to begin their journey from Skara Brae's financial center [bank]... simply head down to the docks and take the ferry across [say cross on the little boat]. from here simply stick to the main road as it heads east [again, by your radar, so right down diagonal]. eventually you will reach a split in the road where there is a divergence north towards Yew. take this option and be on the lookout as you will soon approach the camp on your left. if you wind up surrounded by orcs instead... that means you fell asleep and your horse led you into a trap. SPECIAL NOTE this is why one should always avoid traitorous horses and travel by llama instead. or do the world a favor and reduce your poop-print by going on foot!