Any chance trammel can close after events?

People use the gates to escape faction and order/chaos pvp, as they are conveniently at every bank including bucs. People trade in the safety of trammel here. Despite being told this is against the shard rules, I routinely find people in here macroing pets, doing re-tames, or even macroing wrestling such as @Majinko (a papuan queen) here:

I agree with snap! That place does not fit on this shard.

Wait there is Trammel on this Shard? I never even knew. Sounds reasonable to close it off when not used for events, else the playerbase might even split up? IS there anything stopping people from placing houses there?

If I am correct, it is the same area we get to when we are done with a Winter scroll / Xmas scroll and there are still some scrolls out there to be used.

I agree with Snap and also clarify that you do not have full access to the entire trammel map. the "space" of access is limited but fools do have full access to the Trammel ruleset whilst in the event center.

there is no risk of a shard split with half the folks having houses and dungeon hunting, but there is great potential for a shard rift between those who abuse and those who respect the use of the event center.

*signs snaps petition*

@Chris please close event center gates after CTF. Can the gates be closed after the matches start or are they coded in as part of the CTF event?

The way should be shut. It was made by those who are absolved, but the Care Bears exploit it until the time comes.
The way should be shut.

+1 majinko for a better name than snap.

-10 majinko for dem "exploits".

+1 Witchcraft for appropriate use of the word "than" in a sentence.

Also, gate people to Bucs 1/2 hour after an event is over if they use the green gates and make sure there is no gate to take them back. Clear the lobby at the same time and send everyone to Bucs from there also.

But real talk I agree with this. No more trammel between events!

Fixed

I'm 100% for instanced events or CTF, etc.. exiting you into the event center. I wouldn't want to see that changed, I don't think it's fair that you can essentially be trapped when being dumped from an instanced event or CTF.

@snap dragon , I'm not trying to trash talk you here, but you contributed heavily to why this is the way it is. You were casting gates on top of the spots where we could enter the event area for CTF and thus contributing to deaths and lots of complaining. On top of this (and I'm not sure if you did this but I know many others have) upon exiting we would be subject to various death robe thieves, factioners, griefers, etc.. who would take advantage of someone being dumped from the event center - sometimes unexpectedly (Britain Inn).

I agree that it's not the most ideal in it's current form. I can't get behind changing something without taking time to think about how snap would take advantage.

I like you, snap, but if I ran this server I would have to sit and ponder for hours before changing anything out of fear you would find a loophole and I'd have to talk people off the ledge from quitting - or even have to entertain hours of bitching because someone died or was looted.

I think we're beating a dead horse with the event center gates, though. We've had probably a half dozen threads dedicated to this very topic and I believe Telamon has said in the past that simply notifying him (or TMan) in IRC would suffice in getting the gates closed.

@Cynic in the 2013 halloween event I cast 1 gate near the event gate for the Night of Horrors, and was told by telamon not to do it anymore. It has never happened (by me) again.

Besides the obvious slander, I think you're missing the entire point. There's no problem with the event center existing. As annoying as it is that people can trade there (and I do believe trade should be restricted there as it was on another shard), it's not much different when you consider it's possible to 99% securely trade outside of trammel. The issue is that it's open when there is no event and people jump in there for safety and to macro skills.

Ok, then I was misinformed, so I'll take it back. However, you did it once and with your reputation I'd fear not changing something (even drastically) would likely cause a lot of QQ.

I understand your point. It's a complete safe zone where people have, and continue, to train/trade/idle/escape. I agree with your point that it should be restricted for these things. Again, I believe everyone agrees and we're beating a dead horse.

Telamon may eventually automate the gates someday. Until then, just send an in game page. I've done it and seen them removed, not immediately but within a reasonable amount of time.

On a side note, anyone making a trade in town and get's taken by a thief is just careless and deserves it. You have immunity after a trade from the item being stolen for like 30 seconds, it's crazy that people still get stolen from after trades. Using the event center to trade is just overkill, paranoia, or I dunno what.

I do get, just as frustrated as you, when people use the gate to escape bad things from happening to them. I'll admit, I've done it myself, the temptation could not be overcome in the past. I'm supportive in removing the gates.

You're right on the trade thing.

Also right on using it to escape. I would do it too, and so would anyone else. People saying they would stand outside it and die like a man are lying to themselves.

Does it count if I die before I reach the gate?

unless you're me. I would stand there and die like a man dressed in a grey wizard robe with a shepherd's crook.

You probably wouldn't find yourself in this situation anyway. Event gates don't usually spawn at randomized "captive" npc spawns and overland rock formations.

Eh. I never used those gates to escape death. Never ran into a house to escape pvp either. Not once in my entire uo career.

I ran away plenty, but I did it the normal way by running the opposite direction until I could recall or had lost my pursuer.

I was too busy harping on other things to harp about house hiders and moongate hoppers but Ive always looked down on these practices.

Remember that one time you hid under a bowl of soup? that tomato soup looked like blood!

hehe.

Hopefully not the one I gave you...

No it doesn't. You can still claim you were never going to use it and you had every intention of dying in your pank sandals. Or whatever you dress up in when you roll out of bed int he morning...