The Dexxer: Should we make some changes? (Long read inside)

The age-old argument once again rises from the field of broken dreams. Loxness, I hear your pain but this server will never allow a dexmonkey to be on par with a mage. Stun and tamer mages simply rule this server and always will. That's why I eventually quit. It's never going to change. Archery and macing here sucks (war axe has been broken forever) swing times are wonky and the concussion blow for two-handed swords that would really help even things out 1 vs.1 is horribly nerfed here so mages don't have to worry about working back from a mana deficit, not that it would matter since low rolls and whiffing would be enough to hand the mage a victory anyway. It's sad that a mage only has to invest a somewhat substantial amount up-front to be viable but a dexxer will have to commit insane amounts of gold over and over again in order to compete, and in addition to that risks it all whenever they take the field. The risk vs. reward for dexxers as compared to mages is such that unless you have a few million gold laying around and a stock of disposable verite or valorite weapons, you simply are going to be taking more dirt naps than your mage counterparts, all the while losing your uber gear every time you get smoked. For a casual gamer it's just too much commitment to play a pvp dexxer.

I'm telling you guys, everything feels like it was made for powerscrolls and wasn't adjusted to the correct rate of successes that existed in era. It makes the game more fun too, because only losers enjoy failing.

That being said, I like playing dexers, think tamers need a damage reduction against other players and loved macing in era. It would drop people's armor and clothes off in no time.

Apparently, Chris refuses to acknowledge 9+ pages of information and insight from 30+ players. I guess that whole "show me people are interested/care about dexxers and I will see what I can do" talk was just for show.

Please buff dexxers because loxness cant play mage.

The fact that we have several active pvp guilds that are almost exclusively dexxers (orcs and brigands) is reason enough to change it, imo.

The post by TheUORnerd says it all, if you can't play a mage as well as others, you're ridiculed. If you don't want to play a mage but still wish to compete in pvp, you're told to "get good bro". If you like to play a different template than a stun mage (or variation thereof) but find that this system has basically handicapped most other pvp templates and dexxers then you get the "why you mad bruh?". Loxness, I wish you well in your future campaign. The fact that this shard caters to basically one style of pvp really is a shame. As far as "History Perfected", look at ALL the things that have been added that are most definitely not era accurate. The server as a whole was a good one, too bad it just caters to one style of pvp, worships tamers and has given quite a few goodies to crafters, everyone else can kick rocks as they are in the perceived "minority". Just go back to who originally had the most influence and input regarding the pvp system when this shard started, that should tell you why things are the way they are here.

Hah you guys need to GIT GUD. I spent months dieing in order to get better at it. This entire thread is basically a massive "Please buff dexxers so I can run around mindlessly swinging at people and put in absolutely no work in order to get better at pvp". Stop making excuses if you were better at playing dexxers you would not die as often and they have runics on this server in order to give you some training wheels so you don't have to be very good in order to compete.

Nerd, you really have made my case for me, not that it matters I don't play here anymore. I have accomplished many things in UO. I have accomplished many things on this server. Just on a lark I ran as a solo dexxer PK as a challenge to myself and did fairly well. I killed many a mage and I died a few times as well. I also PK'd on a mage. Having played both sides of the coin I can say it was much easier PKing as a mage. This shard simply caters to a certain crowd, and that's ok, it's a private shard and the owner can do whatever they want with it. That being said, I felt there could be a little more balancing as it applies to pvp, just my two cents. There are some great people on this shard (Village of PAWS) so as far as the social factor this shard is really good, it's just the mechanics of play that need some tweaking.

Unless you can name one person this this entire shard thats not in CA or IRL that likes you.

Bad dexer < bad mage
Average dexer = bad mage
Average dexer < average mage
Good dexer > bad mage
Good dexer = average mage
Good dexer < good mage
Great dexer > average mage
Great dexer = good mage
Great dexer < great mage
See the trend?
Concussion blow? Oh you mean minor headache blow.
I found it incredibly harder to be a good dexer than a good mage in Ren.
I agree some minor tweaks need to happen to assist dexers, but it isn't as bad as its made out to be here.

Mindlessly running around swinging a wep will see you dirt nap real quick.
Juggling 3 diff weps, knowing when to use each one them, knowing how to use your tiny pool of mana with no med, timing heals properly is not for the faint hearted, and I only ever came across 3 dexers in my time I would consider as elite. But even those 3 wouldn't stand a chance against the elite mages.

@Crunk Juice @Brymstone Theres a massive difference between being able to pk on a mage and being good at a mage and neither of you two are good. As I said before git gud salty noobs.

Nail on the head.

Although I agree dexxers need a buff it will never happen. Just like stealing needs tweaking and taming needs nerfing. Staff won't do it.

Just look at all the polls or ideas on any number of proposals (there are plenty.) They are merely debate threads among players, not staff.

In order for your claims to be valid you have to actually be a great dexxer or a great mage and again unless you are either how can you possibly speak on the subject at hand? Great dexxers don't actually exist unless a good mage makes a dexxer and decides he wants to play one. The fact is you guys are just pleb dexxers, you guys didnt even balance your stats till I TOLD YOU to balance your stats. So please stop crying looking for easy fixes to problems that don't actually exist. Dexxers are already buffed they have million dollar weapons that they can buy and easily cover their weaknesses what piece of mage gear or equipment costs 1 mill and can be used in 1v1 tournaments in order to dummy their competition?

Your come back is as shitty as your IDOC game son....git gud.

You told me how to balance stats?
You know how I play?

If you are who I think you are...
Kid I was pvping in this game as a mage and a dexer while your mother was taking you to your first day of school. You also balance 90/45/90...
Any idea how hp is calculated? Why have an even amount of str? Any idea how mindblast damage is calculated? Why have your dex smack bang in the middle?

Also read my whole post through before going off on a tangent. You might find I said it was always harder to be a dexer and things here aren't as bad as they're made out to be. A few minor tweaks like proper concussion blow and macing fixes would almost see it sorted.

If you need any help reading through other posts, let me know.

Was talking to crunk juice but again you the plebs unite lol no one cares how good you thought you were. You are bad right now right this second git gud.

IF you were talking to crunk, why'd you quote me?

Keep back peddling, champ.

Have you asked snap what I mean about hp and mindblast yet? Your failing to explain it is pretty telling.

Oh I know I know, can I tell him?

Let him git gud all by himself.