New housing options

Discussion in 'Renaissance Discussion' started by Wise, Apr 8, 2013.

Would you like to see more staff made upgrades to existing housing options?

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  2. No

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  1. Wise

    Wise Well-Known Member
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    Firstly, I would like to say that the improved keep and castle designs are freaking awesome.

    Since this was done so well I was wondering if we could hope for another unique design based on some original ren available blueprints (2 story with patio in the 300k range for example).

    Of course this is a wish list item and I understand there are many more important issues for staff to focus on. But a man can dream, can he not?

    Cheers
  2. Chris

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    Anything is possible really. The changes to the castle/keep were made due to a general feeling that OSI made design mistakes when creating them back in 1997. A castle while intended for a guild, was never designed for one. And a keep, intended for ??? was given almost 25% useless space on the first floor.

    One downside of creating custom designs like that is the requirement for an additional, however small, client patch.

    Players are welcome to download the world builder and take a crack at creating something yourself. You can find it in the downloads section of our website

    http://www.uorenaissance.com/?page=m_download
  3. CleverWalrus

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    Even if i like a LOT the fortress and keep i think those 2 were "needed" changes fullfilling the purpose of those structures, i don't like so much the idea of introducing too much differences from original UO, after all the goal of this server is to replicate an era and adapt it with what was too useful to be left out.

    Then, obviously, i'm sure that some more of the houses can be improved making them even more useful and desiderable.
  4. frenulum

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    I would like to see an option to buy a "Golden Sink" to have installed in a house, creating another gold sink to help the economy... perhaps make it cost like 50% of the total $$ on the server (gold, deeds, checks, etc...). make them super rare, and they only get more expensive as the server grows...

    and the 2story with a patio sounds pretty cool too... but I would say maybe just double the price for any new house styles, making them something more to work for...


    I would also like to see a mirrored version of the asymmetrical houses that currently exist on the server.

    And, maybe create a house with 1, single, tile with the ability to recall onto... would have to be super expensive too... either an option to add to existing houses or new versions of houses with a recall tile available in/on them...


    and... that's enough for me for now...

    good idear Wise... sign me up...
  5. HateCrime

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    Don't fix it if it isn't broken. And I quote: (Tela's Sig) "When you do things right, people won't be sure that you've done anything at all."
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    I think at most, introducing a few more types over time won't be a bad thing. I love the two new designs and we all likely have considered improvements over the existing designs.

    I like the concept of a medium tower, the footprint of a brick but only two story, with a roof and no wings. I'm sure a bunch more thoughts are out there like this but of course, they should be fleshed out and considered deeply before implementation.
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  8. Chris

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    That is still an option I would like to explore either completely client side, or server side via the house sign.
  9. Wulver

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    I'm with the building material upgrade ^^^
  10. Godric Greycliff

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    I would like to see more options for cheaper/smaller houses added. Certainly the keep and castle designs were lacking but only adding in upgrades to these designs sort of seems to reinforce the pro-super-rich-tamer thing we seem to have going on here.
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    I'd be down to see tents added :)
  12. Godric Greycliff

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    I'm totally down with the tents. *starts a gypsy character*

    A certain other freeshard that recently went down had some pretty cool "custom" house designs in the mid-size category. Unfortunately (maybe) their website is down so I can't send Telamon a link.
  13. CleverWalrus

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    Personally after seeing how tents are and were used i strongly suggest to avoid them in the original state.

    Since there is plenty of free space for houses (expecially in the wild) tents could be a temporary refuge for hunting/farming in a specific place for a low cost but for doing it right the tents should be consumables, they last for a fixed amount of time and then disappair or go back to the player as a deed or something.

    In this way a tent can be useful but would not waste a TON of space that could go to more intresting houses.
  14. Wulver

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    Make tents last 14 days, also allow them in the lost lands... :D
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    Tents should require a minimum of 85 Camping skill to use and have a 24 hour refresh timer. Also cannot be refreshed for more than one week before being re-packed (deeded) and replaced.
    Once the skilled camper has placed his tent, anyone friended to it can safe-log there. Possibly a craftable item requiring x bolts of cloth, y ingots and z boards?
  16. CleverWalrus

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    This.
  17. Chris

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    This is correct, the primary reason tents were removed from OSI shards was due to low price of the deed they were commonly used for land locking.

    Secondly allowing anything that can hold land and be crafted can result in a variety of problems.

    That said I think there is a way we could use tents, they will have to cost as much or more than a standard house, and require a few changes, house sign, etc. Most of the house mechanics would not work properly for a house with no doors, and no floor.

    On another tanget we have looked at the idea of creating certain structures that can be purchased and placed as houses with certain guild functions. Gathering areas, dueling arenas, and such. Tents could be worked into this plan to allow guilds some creativity when creating their "town".

    I could also see tents being functional as vendor bazaar's
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    I love this!
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    I think more housing options would be great! Personally I loved the custom housing they added with AoS, it was so fun! Unfortunately most custom houses looked like butt-crack, and they cause an awful lot of server traffic.

    I think this is a situation where we can move the server forward along the same lines as OSI did but do it better, and without the influence of Trammel. Providing larger houses with more modest footprints and higher item capacity allows for larger shard populations to own more houses on the existing landmass, and provides options for folks that want a lot of storage but not a gigantic grey blob of a home.

    I'ma take a crack at a few housing designs and see if ya'll like any of them. I'm especially interested in expanding the options for the small houses in the 50k-150k range with a 7x7 up to 11x11 footprint. Those kinds of houses can be placed in very interesting locations where you can't fit a monster home.

    I'm also thinking about ways to make houses that can fit where we never could place houses before. Things like houses on stilts that could be place above objects or uneven terrain (like the courtyards of the "big greys"), and specialized outpost-type houses with small footprints (maybe 4x4) that could be squeezed into spots in strategic places to offer vendors or services.

    Dunno. Let me see what I come up with. It's been a while since I used World Edit :p
  20. Blaise

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    11x11 stone medium tower plz

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