AFK Gump? Please at least try to read before voting, this is why we ended up with Trump

Assuming if there is no market for perfectly timed IDOCs?

Like your suggestions. I'll definitely be either looking to sell perfectly timed IDOCs or simply posting them for increased PvP, since it's so damn easy to create a script for this.

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Chis mentioned earlier in this thread that this punishes players that put in effort, skill and preparation, something that is typically rewarded.

Because this is a MMORPG that *should* encourage player interaction to yield the greatest rewards. In my experience, IDOC's have always been the greatest source of wealth of any 'profession' and you should work with others to secure that wealth. Solo IDOC'ers can do well by snagging a box or rare, but typically players that work well together and spend time preparing for IDOCs are the ones rewarded from it.

IDOC's have been a staple of UO since houses were introduced around 1997, on Prodo shards it's always attracted the most dedicated PvP'ers and the most dedicated players due to the high rewards.

The fact that there is so little PvP around IDOCs here is symptomatic of the playerbase, not the mechanics.

IDOCs were not dominated by the most hardcore in the late 90s. Nor were they automated and timed perfectly from a GW status. Please don't compare current IDOCs to 1997 IDOCs, because they are nothing alike.

Source: I was an extremely successful IDOCer that soloed and duoed them on one of the most populated shards

Well, you can add one more AFK scripter to IDOCs... Got multiple houses on watch now. Never expected a 30 second macro to make me so rich while AFK.

UO R: History Selected

I'm not in the scene so I won't be around to watch you get smashed into the ground, but knowing its going to happen still makes me smile.

You're right, they actually had PvP and competition instead of just a few people showing up to take everything. I remember the Brit Moongate house falling on GL and at least a few hundred people showed up to the point where my dialup connection would disconnect me until everyone left.

I remember guildies staying at home from school/work for 10+ hours just to camp IDOC's, so while the timers may not have been as accurate, the competition was definitely there and rewarded the most resourceful of players.

The mechanics are not the problem, it's the players.

Yeah, cause the 5 players that are active are SO good at PvP. Stop trying to act like this server has any sort of PvP competition to it.

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Only salt I have is after spending the night successfully placing IDOCs the old way. Let the scripts rain!

While I certainly can't refute much of what you said, as I didn't do them nor knew item I'd worked on houses. I do find it odd this didn't lead you to dominating servers like Atlantic having this much knowledge.

Most IDOCs I attended would have less than 4 people and everyone would be camping at least 4 hours.

I can't recall a single time someone swooped in with 5 minutes left on a house to claim it, as is the norm here.

Their methods are not secrets, they are public.
What difficulty are you having with the application and positive results?

HOW is the results of this thread holding you back?

I'm better than this thread.

This subject (every time it comes up) wreaks of "nerf it" undertones by people that can't compete and feel changing this one thing will ruin it for "that one group of people".

I will never give pardon to anyone that seeks change prior to applying themselves to mastering the current process. There has been NO IDOC competition at the moment worthy of mention prior to this thread.

Then stop talking about it and be the first of your kind to actually do it.

I will commend your efforts and cheer for you when you show your results good or bad.

see you

Posting memes, adding nothing to the thread, not reading it clearly as in feeling it was created to combat a group VS a process.

You're actually the culmination of a large part of this thread

My point is, if you want to compete, they've made it so this is the only way to.

They've allowed, and ruined, the old IDOC process and pigeon-holed it into this process AFK time perfected process. Fine with me. I can play like that too.

But it's not UO:R and definitely not intuitive for new members. You literally have to come on this forum, break the immersion of the game, and read into these things to even understand what's going on in this server. Which could easily be destroyed by putting an AFK check on IDing house signs.

Just breeding more AFK scripters. Why do they cater to that? It's worth exploring and if you don't want to, simply don't click on the threads?

I think that's somewhat subjective and contradicting. Someone may love the server the most, becuz the mechanics are in their favor. Whereas another person might love the server the most, if the mechanics were in their favor. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think I would love the server the most if my favorite template (stealth poisoner) was viable. But it isn't, so what, who cares, right? As far as the idoc thingy goes, lol I for one could care less, I only voted yes to support the OP. I like the shard, and I like the staff, but I'm mainly here becuz there isn't a better option. Doesn't mean I love everything about the server. I'm a loyal person in general, and as long as I feel grateful for what the staff has done, I will remain loyal, but there is a line. Today, I feel grateful. This isn't a rant, this is just me keeping it 100.

My first week back I asked the question how someone could swoop in at the last minute and loot/place when I had sat there for 3 hours semi AFK. I was given a generic answer. It wasn't until this weekend catching Joe Bot and talking in IRC I found out what the "norm" is here.

I've played UO on and off since 1997 this is the first I've seen something like this be allowed

I've never seen people so scared to lose something that "doesn't generate profit while AFK". While the ring leader does nothing but boast about his own experiences with IDOCS. The response to this is hilarious. People on this server, vets, FEAR competition on a "Felucca" server. It's fucking amazing.