Bring back skill loss on bonded pets

My point was to make a difference between bards and tamers, not bards and dexxers.

Of course a slayer weapon is more expensive.

Of course, but the ROI on a slayer instrument is significantly higher considering the potential, not too mention ease of escape.

Ease of escape? I believe you're one of the people on this shard who understands how it's damn near impossible to get PKed if you're actually paying attention to your UO screen.

I agree about the ROI bit but that's totally player economics and this shard has too much gold which drives up prices. That's not too relevant to a tamer/bonded pet/stat loss mechanic. Slayer weapons probably have a better gold-per-hour than slayer instruments as well.

Warriors who are actually engaging targets are in less of a position to escape with ease. Unless the target is provoked or peaced, it's hitting you and potentially disrupting. If it's a casting mob, there's no reflect up, etc etc. My bard sits on the sidelines with reflect up, hidden, with a hand on the Recall macro key.

Honestly, if slayers were more common (*cough cough* in all treasure map chests where they fucking belong *cough cough*), and it was a 10-50k loss, I wouldn't even give a shit about how embarrassingly imbalanced the loss for tamers is compared to a real warrior.

Tamers don't need a nerf. Their safety nets just need to be removed.

FEH


It took 6 damn pages for this covo to get properly summarized?

There's plenty of tamer love! I did not know this but wow! Don't even need to bond to a new pet upon transfer! How is that logical?

http://uorforum.com/threads/wts-dra...-fresh-tames-prices-slashed-10k-off-all.8217/

From the thread:

Beastin)------824/825/100/472 Grey - 1.2M **FULLY TRAINED 7xGM** **Bonded already - will Bond to you with no pec meat required**
Savage)------825/825/100/448 Grey - 1.3M **FULLY TRAINED 7xGM** **Bonded already - will Bond to you with no pec meat required**
Thrash)-------802/825/105/464 Grey - 899k **FULLY TRAINED 7xGM** **Bonded already - will Bond to you with no pec meat required**
Slash)--------804/825/105/442 Grey - 899k **FULLY TRAINED 7xGM** **Bonded already - will Bond to you with no pec meat required**
Tank)----------825/825/100/466 Grey - 1.5M **FULLY TRAINED 7xGM** **Bonded already - will Bond to you with no pec meat required**

As far as pet stat loss, I say make it 20% with a 1 week cool down. Upon resurrection a gump pops up stating that x time has elapsed, stat loss, etc, etc. Even if it was changed to a flat 20% regardless I would not care. Perhaps it would shut some of you crybabies up. It takes a few hours to train up melee skills on fresh dragons and the only stat that matters for DPS is dex.

I doubt Telamon will ever nerf taming, he's too busy constantly nerfing mining
#restoregolemshovels

So you are saying, "Get rid of it as the loss of it doesn't even matter as long as I have X."

lol wut?

Wrong hash tag, it's #restoreamfekk.

Golem shovels were able to produce 1200+ ingots, now they produce 200-300. I just figured as long as people are whining about stuff I'd whine too

It's a fact that no one ever fact checks on the Internet, let alone on a web forum

That doesn't change the topic though. Why are is stat loss removed for tamers due to DDOS?

True about those arguments having no basis. However, risk should be shared equally whatever the situation or mechanic. Integral tools for a tamer, i.e. their pet, are not susceptible to the same risks as integral tools for other skillsets.

Also, don't you mean 2.5%?

Could you address how bonding fits with the statement on the homepage?

"UO:Renaissance is an Ultima Online free-shard, based on Renaissance era mechanics, without the influences of Trammel."

P.S. Thank you for weighing in on this thread whatever the outcome! I still love this server.

Thanks for the official answer, however, I agree with Plankton. I find it desirable that there is no uber-skill which is necessary for most of the long term events and the big happenings like Champs/Harrower. There must be viable alternatives. And that there is some kind of at least minimal distribution of risk, which is VERY clearly not the case, no matter what the reason behind the decision is.

PS: I haven't experienced a DDOS for a very long time now. Especially one that took longer than 5 minutes.

When tamers were already overpowered with a single bonding slot and 8 control slots, how did adding more bonding slots balance them better with classes that actually still suffer major risk in the field? The Zookeeper quest is an example of concessions and bonuses astronomically far beyond the damage/chance to hit buff that dexxers got. Instead of getting a quest to gain the ability to not lose their top tier hard to come by weapon, instead we have Level 7 treasure maps that will provide a venue for tamers to go make more millions finding top tier slayers in there to sell. None of these things even remotely make me think of balance. They make me think that you're utterly blind to the fact that bonded pets ARE BLESSED WEAPONS. If slayers were made more common, and only held values around 50k or so, it wouldn't be a concern. No one's paying 500k+ for a dragon they can't bond, anymore.

There is a major imbalance in the risk factors and you've only made it even more imbalanced by increasing bonding slots.