I am trying to build up an overview of possible and viable pvp templates. This overview should help people like me to choose 1. a way to go and 2. a viable skill combination for the choosen way. What I found out is that there are basically 4-5 main skills and 2-3 optional skills to put in combination to be a viable mage or warrior in pvp. Depending on the optional skills a template tend to be more defensive or more offensive. Stats are as well depending on the choosen skill combinations. There are some points that I am not sure about and therefore need your help... What is working and what will not work with UO:R mechanics? What are the pros and cons of the skills combinations? What stats are fitting best for what skills combination? Are there even more viable combinations that are not listed underneath? Warrior Stats: Str: 100, Int: 25-55, Dex: 70-100 Main Skills: Anatomy, Healing, Tactics, Magery, Magic Resist Optional Skills: Swordsmanship + Lumberjacking: Lumberjacking gives a damage bonuns to axe's. Mace Fighting + Parrying: Maces inflict the most damage with just one hit, damages the opponents armor as well and drain their stamina. Parrying gives the ability to wield shields that increases the ar (armor rating) and gives a chance to block an attack. Fencing + Poisoning: Fencing weapons have the fastest hitrate but lowsest damage per hit. The purpose of this skillcombo is not to hit hard but fast while applying the poison from the weapon as often as possible for the effect of a steadily interruption especially of spellcasters. Weaponskill + Evaluating Intelligence Evaluating Intelligence works for Magery in the same way as Tactics for a Weapponskill, it actually adds a damage bonus and turns Magery into a offensive usable skill. In combination with Anatomy, Evaluating Intelligence grants a defenssive Wrestling ability. Weaponskill + Meditation Weaponskill + Hiding Weaponskill + Archery Mage Stats: Str: 100, Int: 90-100, Dex: 25-35 Main Skills: Magery, Meditation, Evaluating Intelligence, Resisting Spells Optional Skills: Wrestling + Anatomy + Healing Anatomy in combination with Wrestling gives the ability to stun an opponet. Healing gives another way to refill the hitpoints when using bandages. 60 Anatomy/Healing allows to cure poison. At 80 Anatomy/Healing it is possible to resurrect a dead when using bandages. Weaponskill + Anatomy + Tactics Wrestling + Poison + Skill ? Wrestling + Inscription + Skill Wrestling + Arms Lore + Skill ? Wrestling + Parry + Skill ?
These are some of the possible viable templates for pvp under this ruleset: 'Pure' mages- classic 5x mage skills (magery, eval, resist, med, wrestle) plus a combination of: Parry, Healing, anatomy (for stunning), inscription, poisoning, and/or alchemy 'Tank' mages- Magery, eval, resist, med, anat, tactics, (Insert your weapon of choice here) Hybrid warriors- Med warrior (mage, med, res, tact, anat, heal, weapon skill) Eval warrior (mage, eval, res, tact, anat, heal, weapon skill) 'Pure' warriors- Weapon skill, tact, anat, heal, resist plus whatever you can think of to fill in the last two skills... hiding, alchemy, parry, poisoning etc... I know there are several other template possibilities out there using thief skills or more than 7 skills... this is meant only as a quick list of possibilities. I'd be happy to explain the pros/cons of each one.
First, thank you for saying warrior and not dexxer. Here is my warrior for mainly pvm: Archery Fencing Tactics Anatomy Healing Parrying Resist 100/100/25
It seems Dexxer is tossed around alot nowadays. From what I remember "back in the day" you were a "Dexxer" if you were fencing with a Kryss or Swords with a Katana. "Dexxer" being that you are max on Dex and using the fastest weapon, usually coated with DP.
We called them Dexmonkey back in the day. If they don't fix spell damage, armor absorption/weapon damage and stun times soon then I would tell everybody to just make a mage and wear special (spined, horned,barbed) leather and you'll be a beast here, make sure you make a stun mage as that seems to be the only viable PvP template ATM.
Well with stun punches and Exp stacking and spell damage.... the shard is clearly catering to one type of pvp style Stun Mages So lets everyone make a stun mage and it will be just like UOsa where everyone runs around and does the same shit. If this server wants to be good they need to stop nerfing everything else and let people construct different type of pvp templates and styles.... which is why we came here to UOr instead of going to UOsa
Patience is a virtue, ole bud.... I share your frustration, but give these fellers a chance to iron out the kinks.
I don't think it's truely a matter of ironing out the kinks. There were a variety of templates on OSI during this era- and I think that kinks are a direct result of tampering with the game and the perceived imbalances. You say mages are overpowered, then why did they nerf concussion? Not everyone was an axer back then. Crushing blow was awesome. I think that OSI was more balanced than any free shard I have played- and when free shards think they can do better they just end up making the game more unbalanced.
OSI couldn't spend enough time with existing mechanics to balance them because they were too busy working on the next expansion (so they could make more money). Balancing the gameplay would require sticking with a given set of mechanics and variables and massaging them based on actual play experience. By the time they realized x, y or z was OP, they were already implementing 30 new things to throw it all off balance again without enough validation testing to know what's good or not. Many things are not finished here and will take a significant amount of time and (constructive) player feedback to really come close to balancing.
I think its quite clear that concussion blow was "balanced" (nerfed, call it what you want) for two main reasons. 1) Concussion blow at a -50 (Intelligence / 2) is without question, unbalanced. It is not physically possible to even compete as a mage against an opponent who has a 25% chance on every hit to reduce your mana pool directly by half. All this does is ensure a game of cat and mouse where the mage runs away, either in a circle or just away, period. By the time concussion wears off, you will never passively regenerate the missing 50 mana before the opponent lands another concussion blow, this has been proven time and time again over the years. 2) Lumberjacking yields an additional +30/35% (not sure which formula they are using here, but its either/or) damage bonus to two-handed axes. This is incremental of the anatomy, tactics, and strength bonus formulas to damage as well. Trying to fight an opponent who can land 55-60 damage hits effectively, with 50 mana is a joke.
passive mana should be 5 points every 4 seconds for gm medit.., bandages should heal faster but block the ability to do anything else (casting spells etc), one should be able to move X tiles while casting a spell if they walk more the spell should fizzle, A gm magery should cast seventh circle spells without fizzling only my opinion....
