I'd like some advice...

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  1. Cheapsuit

    Cheapsuit Well-Known Member
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    I know you're gonna say to drop one or two of the bard skills, but for some reason I MUST have a bard that can do it ALL. So here are his skills as of now, and I would appreciate ANY help that doesn't include me dropping a bard skill.

    GM Music
    GM peace
    GM Provo
    93.1 entice
    GM hiding
    GM resist
    50 and some change magery

    What is the best and most useful template I can turn this character into WITHOUT dropping a bard skill? Thanks for the help guys.

    Note: I already have a peace dexxer.
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    *scatches head* Yea I don't really have anything to suggest bud.

    You've made a bard.

    So.....maybe just play the character as an all out bard and not worry about trying to cram more stuff in there? I'd drop hiding for meditation to be honest, training magery without it is brutal and with all 3 of those bard skills I can't really see you needing to do a lot of hiding.
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  3. dennozz

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    magery med resist evalint music provo hiding(Peacemaking is sooo useless if u already have provo, peace is only good to train taming)
  4. Cheapsuit

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    what about....

    music
    provo
    peace
    entice/discord
    hiding
    stealth
    magery

    or

    music
    provo
    peace
    entice/discord
    magery
    eval
    med
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    I think that GM resist would be more beneficial on the second template you posted instead of Eval.

    Your not going to be doing much/if any damage on the monsters because you have 3 bard skills, the benefit of those skills is you don't need to do anything other than sit back and wait for one of them to die. Maybe finish off the loser with a single energy bolt. Having the extra damage points that Eval affords you is a piss in the ocean in that exact situation.

    However GM resist for when you first enter a location with casting spawn and get hit with a spell or two before you're able to Provo or peace any monsters onto each other is a great benefit.

    But hey, it's your character dude! Do whatever you want, if you're having fun what does it matter!
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    I haven't tried this character with spawn yet, and want to here your opinion. The first template I figured I could stealth to the loser and loot until another mob spawn so I could then provoke him onto the winner. the second template is a possible finish off the winner template. Do people run with 3 bard skills? And if so, what other 3 skills is most common?
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    You'll be revealed if you loot from the corpse - just FYI!
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    I echo what others have said:

    Music
    Provo
    Peace
    Disco
    Magic
    Med
    Resist
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    As a bard, your mostly PvM. I would drop resist.

    Music
    Provo
    Peace
    Disco
    Magery (Daemons or EV's to kill)
    Med (Mana Regen, even passive at max, because lets face it bard killing is not super fast.)
    Hiding (great utility skill for a bard to set up provos then hide in case of pks or disco then cast your summons at it then hide)

    I would possibly drop Hiding for Eval if you were planning to mana dump eb or fs on the mobs to finish them off during provo.
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    .... another vote for bard skills plus magery med, hide
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    Music
    Peacemake
    Provocation
    Discordance/Entice
    90 Magery
    80 Meditation
    90 Wrestling or Hiding
    40 Eval (or 0 Eval and Gm other skills)
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    I honestly haven't noticed magic mobs dispelling my summons. Maybe I am not going after the right ones or I havent hunted in a long time without my tames and forgot. I suppose the higher level targets would take some strategy to learn how to defeat them, inlcuding summon dispel.
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    Great tips guys. I'm thinking if I have 100 int, why would I still need med?
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    You're gonna burn through that so fast bud.

    Pretty much everyone here has told you that you're gonna need med. Maybe, and feel free to call me crazy.....you should have med?

    At this point it's not really just everyone's two cents it's more of a 50 dollar whip around to get you a TGI Fridays gift card.
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    Thats us.

    I'm the blonde.
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