Raising Remove Trap "in the field"?

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  1. Alice Asteroid

    Alice Asteroid Well-Known Member
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    Is it possible?

    I have 29.4 remove trap. Level 1 dungeon chests are a breeze to disarm. I have never failed and I have not received any skill gain from them. I tried disarming a level 2 dungeon chest and was unable to, failing for about five minutes straight with no skill gain. I tried disarming the traps in NPC shops in cities and similarly to level 1 dungeon chests - they're a breeze and I have yet to see any skill gain. Same story for chests in captured NPC camps.

    I have not tried any t-maps yet. There are some posts on the forum that give the minimum skill needed to disarm level 3 and up t-map chests but no information on level 1 and 2. My character doesn't really kill anything so she never comes across treasure maps. If they were my only option for raising this skill it would be annoying, anyway.

    Is the only solution to meta-game? If so, then boo. It should be possible to raise any skill in the game by just playing the dang game.

    Has anyone had success with raising this skill in the field? I might be impatient but even if it's a slow-gaining skill, at 29.4 it should not take this long to see +0.1.

    (It is similar to a problem I had with lockpicking where the only locks I could pick in game were too easy and gave no skill gain while the other locks were too difficult to attempt. No choice but to macro with player-locked boxes to get over the hump.)
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  2. CaptainMorgan

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    LP and RT can be raised int he field, it just takes a LOT of patience. There are chests level 2-4 for sure, so definitely possible. It's just that they're both SO slow to raise that training it in the field can seem like it's not working. (also, RT is useless, but that's another issue)
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  3. Blaise

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    Outside of Factions anyway....
  4. wylwrk

    wylwrk Well-Known Member

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    were you wearing gloves?

    3's spawn with 2's... perhaps it was a 3 and outside your ability?




    I support custom dungeon chest content that incorporates a modified npc monster, random spawning chests, lockpicking, detect hidden, remove trap, and new random drop rares.
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    Gloves having an effect on LP/RT is a myth
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    a joke for Alice, m8
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    OK, just making sure. :)
  8. Alice Asteroid

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    Yeah... I know it's useless. I don't need it at all but I thought it'd be fun to use. However! If it's really going to take this long I won't bother.

    wylwyrk - according to Stratics I was attempting it on level 1 and level 2 chests but I know that that information is not always in sync with our shard.
  9. wylwrk

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    yeah, 2's and 3's mingle here... I have remove trap. It's value added.
  10. One

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    You raised it in the field??
  11. Alice Asteroid

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    Thus far, no one has admitted to have personally raised it in the field (from ~29 real skill) even though everyone says it's perfectly possible.
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    I raised it on the field for a while, whenever I played my dungeon crawler. I gained several points, before I stopped.

    But honestly, don't do it. It is like extending the 95 to GM pain for lockpicking to a 29 - whatever your nerves can take range.

    To make it "effective", you would need to focus on the chests that have the right level for gaining. It drops your income significantly, but if you do that, it works. Else you are wasting alot time because of fails that don't provide gains.
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  13. Alice Asteroid

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    It'd be nice if the skill operated like lockpicking, in that if the chest is beyond your ability it tells you so.
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  14. Alice Asteroid

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    All right. I finally got +0.1. Dang that took a while.

    Sorry I doubted anybody. You're all wonderful people.
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  15. wylwrk

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    relish the .1 .... unlike the overnight macroer, you earned yours.
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  16. The Ferret of Baja

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    Oh My Guardian! I actually got a .1 gain in Remove Trap from a dungeon chest. First one I've gotten "in the field", ever. I think I worked it up from tinkered chests ... two years ago?
  17. The Ferret of Baja

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    Alright, so I've gained four more .1s in the last week on L4 dungeon chests, after not having had any gains over the prior two years. So, one of two things is true:
    • The use of gloves (in my case, horned leather) does in fact assist in raising Remove Trap. I only just started wearing them in my dungeon-diving / picking the last week or so (since starting the gains); OR,
    • The devs have updated the gaining rate to allow for increases on dungeon chests, also in the last week.

    So, good Devs.. Which would be the case?


    BTW, for what it's worth, it's not entirely useless. Those chests that are sitting in the midst of dragons and daemons just waiting to turn you into their next meal are far more-accessible without having to telekinese them open. :)
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  18. Silas Blackeye

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    Wait til you get to mid/high 90's and you have no choice but to raise it in the field. I've honestly found that AMIBs are the best source of gains for me now because I actually fail a few times in a row, whereas most dungeon chests are first tries. Pretty ridiculous and inconvenient way to get some skill gains.

    I'd love to see an update that cranks up the usefulness of this skill at least a bit. Kind of unfortunate that a lower circle spell outdoes a skill that requires weeks/months to raise, if not longer (depending on your playstyle).
  19. The Ferret of Baja

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    I just reached 98.0 -- but again, that includes five gains in the last week. it will be very interesting to find out whether I actually gain again. The original post above makes mention of 98 being a bit of a ceiling. Rather hope not...
  20. The Ferret of Baja

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    Now at 98.9. About one gain every 200 L4 dungeon chests. Money is good, but ooooh myyyy fsm soooooo slooooooww..
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