Request for Comment - Champion System

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  1. Kane

    Kane Well-Known Member
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    Are you kidding? I never get run off by a solo pk on my disco tamer, I can chug/heal my way through a single person dumping way too easily and I've 1 shotted many pks with good timing on my pets firebreath. I understand groups of reds are hard to deal with but not any more than it would be if you were on a pure bard or warrior. I'm not saying pets need to be nerfed in pvm, but versus players they are absolutely too powerful
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    Kane, Aug 26, 2015
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  2. Andersonius

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    No I am not kidding. Certainly it is easy to survive a solo pk coming in. Disco tamers, provo tamers are very very easy to kill if you can manage around the pets though. I think a 50% reduction is going a little far on that especially if you are not talking just fire breath but also melee and magery.

    50% reduction you might as well have some drakes with you.

    Also I think if the issue more than anything is the harrower, or factions that the changes should be made there and not across the board.
    Andersonius, Aug 27, 2015
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  3. Andersonius

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    OK I know I am very resistant to change so let me say a little more. One shotting is possible I know (and of course its amusing when it happens) but that is not going to be the case when you have people running up on you while your pets are already engaged but that is neither here nor there.

    Perhaps a reduction to fire breath damage is in order but I disagree with all offense being reduced. I 100% disagree with a 50% reduction as that just seems to be way too much. Also yes I was only commenting concerning damage to players I certainly don't think damage should be reduced for monsters.

    As far as the harrower goes that is a really hard issue to tackle there and I really don't have much valuable input on that particular situation and how the current issues could be remedied with everyone being satisfied!
    Andersonius, Aug 27, 2015
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  4. Bogugh

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    We're going off topic here. We have other threads for this discussion already.
    Bogugh, Aug 27, 2015
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    selling cloth
    Pax Romain, Aug 27, 2015
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  6. Chris

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    Start tonight we will begin testing some aspects of the new system if any players are interested.

    Keep in mind this gump is full of test information, the ranking and payouts are all faked for the purpose of populating the gump.

    harrowergump.png

    This is an example battle log using the new damage capture system that will be provided to players after a harrower is defeated (a smaller gump that you can click at your leisure to see the large log). The top 100 damagers will be listed.

    This gump will also be accessible to players from their profile if you manage to close it accidentally. The information will also be exported to the website for later review.
    Chris, Sep 15, 2015
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  7. Pork Fried Rice

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    Is there a way to not be listed in this?
    Pork Fried Rice, Sep 15, 2015
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  8. Blaise

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    Don't kill anything.
    Blaise, Sep 15, 2015
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  9. Chris

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    This is just an improved visualization of a system that already works as designed. This also only applies to the Harrower and the creatures it summons. I am not sure how the context of your question relates to this?

    This is still just testing and research but the ideas was for these to be provided to players a short time after the harrower was killed to explain the reward they have already received.
    Chris, Sep 15, 2015
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  10. Russell

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    ...opens log real quick and kills highest damager for increased chance at harrower statuette drop
    Russell, Sep 15, 2015
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  11. Punt

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    RIF
    Punt, Sep 15, 2015
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  12. Chris

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    Test2.png

    Results of a live high speed test of the system using two players with pets, summons and high speed bows. With the system subtracting points for health drained from you and your pets this might provide some nice balance between tamers and non tamers.

    It has also worked well to divide out the damage dealt by tamers if we want to achieve a fair scoring system. Larger tests might provide better data on how damage is spread across a diverse group of players working the harrower.

    And regarding the harrower statue logic the drop rates for rewards from the harrower will be changed up to rely on this new system using a bit of randomness/lottery approach.
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    Chris, Sep 15, 2015
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    People use pets against the tentacles?
    CaptainMorgan, Sep 16, 2015
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  14. Chris

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    Test4a.jpg Test4b.jpg Test4c.jpg

    Results of a larger scale test with 50+ players.

    Using the example of 1000 platinum the first 40 players ordered by damage are awarded platinum. One player did not do enough damage (indicated in red) and was not qualified for an award (This didn't come into play as there were more than 40 players in this test).
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    Chris, Sep 16, 2015
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  15. Chris

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    Not so much use, more "get them drained to death by not moving them out of the way".
    Chris, Sep 16, 2015
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    Test5.jpg

    And a test with 17 players. Note the leftover platinum is distributed evenly across the players involved.
    Chris, Sep 16, 2015
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  17. Bogugh

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    If this is supposed to be 1k plat then your formula needs work.
    20(40 + 1) = 840 820

    ???
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    Bogugh, Sep 16, 2015
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  18. Punt

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 20(40 + 1) doesn't equal 840.
    Punt, Sep 16, 2015
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  19. Bogugh

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    Lol. Fixed. This is what happens when you are trying to decide between two different ways of writing something.
    Bogugh, Sep 16, 2015
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  20. Chris

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    Yea those tests were run before i updated to 1000. Thanks for the heads up.
    Chris, Sep 16, 2015
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