Searching for a house

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Every time I see one of these threads, I'm going to hold another fort.

I should just browse old thread and necro old complaints.

http://uorforum.com/threads/fighting-gold-inflation.10312/page-8#post-90838

I was hatin' on @Gideon Jura before it was cool! Good luck in your search shadowjack.

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makin' friends since 2k15



We have the best enemies, don't we folks!

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Housing for sale. 2400 lockdowns. Better yet, lots of of rickety bridges, compromised courtyards, rich neighbors to irritate. S/b 40m.

I think most of the newer players are doing fine, getting lots of help as long as they ask, and do

I don't think anyone needs you campaigning for them. You don't seem to be interested in compromises or the ideas of other people. Your posts are full of accusations toward hypothetical groups of people. You haven't been able to prove that anyone owns 15 houses, that houses are selling for 25mil, or that you (or a new player, or anyone) would make better use of a house than a current owner. Most things in life, not just housing in UO, tend to be reliant on the idea that people choose not to be shitty to each other, but it sounds like it would kill you to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

All I can conclude is that you are not willing to pay the price for the several houses currently available. I know you don't like that I keep bringing up house size, but I think we've already established that there is a huge amount of space available for good small homes, so what is the problem? If there's a new player out there who is distressed because they can't place a house, I would encourage them to post in this thread.

If someone does have 15 houses and are away from the game, I have a hard time believing all of them are in so-called prime locations. In which case, why do you even care about grandfathering? Space itself isn't really the issue.

No matter how many times you've said this isn't about you wanting a castle or a keep, that's really the only way I can interpret your posts at this point. People should be given things because requiring a long term goal is unfair and having to be patient keeps people from being properly 'invested' here. I don't buy it.

If you want, I can run around with you on a weekend sometime and show you my tricks, they're all pretty simple. It's mostly now doing stupid shit like casting tons of walls of stones and taking 10 tries to get 100 regs (when it should take 1-2 to get 10 stones) but since you like pvp, it's fun to go against these guys who are all about killing and watch them scramble when they realize they are used to fighting other pvp people or murdering non pvp chars.

Matron was a top notch pvp thief.

You're good enough with razor that I think you could use that in a much more powerful way than I do.

A lot of time it's just about joking around and messing with people for fun, it's also fun to have a ton of people after you and make a clean get away.

The biggest obstacle to the class is the bad mechanics, but you can have fun in spite of that (after you get over the frustration)

Tree hugger's heart is in the right place, I made the comments when I was having a really down/depressed morning and even if nothing comes of it but the condemned status, the convos on both sides are good to have. I think it helps us come up with ideas to refine all of our systems, there's always room for improvement.


I did have the random thought that what if people who grudge the server or competing servers wanted to harm UOR by locking down a majority of the housing with throw away accounts, this was a possibility (though I hope this hasn't happened and wont)

@Gideon Jura

Amazing write up man! Compromising and dealing with a variety of issues at the same time. I would alter the tax just a bit (seems a tad steep). @One mentioned something that could be a good compromise. Almost like our current tax system (not as complex or f'd up though). The poor folks or even rich folks living in small houses with 10(or 5 or 3) or less secures pay no taxes at all. That would enable them to perhaps have the full 9 small houses if they want, but avoid a tax because they are not hoarding big real estate. Then start upping it from there. the amount of secures is almost like a tax bracket in a way.

0-5=no taxes
5-10=x amount of gold
10-15=2x amount of gold
15-20=3x amount of gold
so on and so forth.

of course amount of secures and amount of gold is up in the air as far as the tax brackets go. Just mentioning the structure portion

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ohh ok gotcha. I had already forgotten some of his plan after reading the rest of the posts after his, lol. It was extremely thorough and well thought out and compromising. That is just something that doesn't happen to often nowadays people have their VERY strong opinions (including me at times) and refuse to hear or compromise with differing view.

mucho kudos!

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You know these plans by you all would actually help several long standing issues that have been talked about for a long time.

Gold sink
Freeing up housing spaces
more active shard and possibly new player retention

I hate farming and people do it a lot more efficiently than I do, but you could make 10k an hour farming corpsers. I admittedly like the progressive tax tho.

1.4 houses per account...are you serious right now? Do you really think that is an accurate number? I am not even going to explain how that number is so damn far from the truth you need a fucking telescope to see it.

That is all.

That comes out to a little over 4 houses per person, seems like a reasonable #. I am below that btw.

There are over 66,000 characters on this server. Being generous (since I am sure there are a TON of character slots open) divide that by 4 characters per account

66,000 / 4 = 16,500 <=== We have over 16,500 accounts on here. 16,500 / 3 = 5,500 people....have you seen 5,500 people online? There are so many rogue accounts out there its not even funny.

I did a search and tried to find the average number of houses placed in Britania, and was unsuccessful. So if you have that number, please post it.

My point is....there is no way in hell that you can use that number to generate an AVERAGE number of houses per account. Now, I did not factor in the possibility that inactive accounts were discarded in that assumption, but even still, 1.4 houses per account is like saying:

" based on my numbers, for every 2 guys on here, 1.5 of yall have sucked a wiener. Based on my numbers gathered from the census of 2016. Its not an fair assessment."

2,000 houses or so as of last year per Telamon(out of 3,300-3400 possible spaces). Lets say that has gone up to 2,500. 2,500 divided by 4.2 houses per person would yield 595 house refreshing people.

Also, I have no idea if these #'s are accurate, i'm just QUOTING Telamon. They seem like believable enough #'s to me.