Hcoin drop distribution is not optimal, IMO.

Discussion in 'Renaissance Discussion' started by BlackEye, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. BlackEye

    BlackEye Well-Known Member
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    You are even lying your ass off here and trying everything to bring it to a personal dimension. I have stolen more hcoins than you can imagine. Believe it or not. :D
  2. Kane

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    more than i can imagine eh? you realize i have the corrupted blood pentagram right?
  3. BlackEye

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    I realize that you have some serious issues being that proud about some pixel paint on some pixel stone. :D

    But at least, that pentagram was farmed by you as you had to exchange your previously hard earned plats for the hcoins. You would never have done it, if you knew how easy it would become to farm that amount later on.


    Okay, back to the topic: Whats so wrong about less fixed boss spawn points and some re-distribution of drop chances to the lesser mobs? It's not like I proposed anything drastic.
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  4. Kane

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    i dont see anything wrong with it, i just dont understand why you care since you dont farm it anyway
  5. BlackEye

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    I came. I saw. I farmed. (What does it matter, whether I farm at all?)
  6. Kane

    Kane Well-Known Member
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    I see I'm talking to a brick wall, I look forward to destroying you at every event to come. :D
  7. BlackEye

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    You would have to actually move your toons. I am not sure, if you are still able to manage that.You seem a bit rusty, e.g. the half-hearted try to blast me 30 minutes ago wasn't very best I have seen so far from you. :D

    It's hard to stay on topic: See OP for some proposals to improve the overworld experience for many players.
  8. Jean-Pierre

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    Not sure if this is the case for triple boxing tamers (i might try dual boxing it and see) but when a friend of mine and I were farming bosses earlier today one or the other would get an HCoin...not both. So it seems (at least from what I've seen) that 1hcoin drops from the mini bosses. So it might not be 1 coin per tamer, but 1 coin period.

    I'll try this out on 2 tamers soon and see if I get 1 coin per kill total or 1 coin per character on the kills.

    Though... I have a hard enough time keeping track of 2 dragons and a mare... So if you see dragons running around doing stupid shit, teleporting onto roofs, following sheep for no apparent reason or chasing me as I run through the woods yelling "OH THE HUMANITY!!!" you'll know I tried to dual box tamers and failed miserably :p

    Have to say the spawn change that made it a little more random in terms of where they spawn is a great thing. So it looks like your suggestion of having it be more random was listened to. I'm having a ton more fun having to use provo for crowd control, find where the mini-boss spawned and even dying on occasion now on my provo/discord tamer. Much better than sitting in a room just waiting for another spawn! Farmed for a couple hours today with a friend and had a blast doing so :)
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  9. Punt

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    It is one coin drop per mini boss and it goes to a single character. The big bosses drop a 5 stack to one character.
  10. Baine

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    I've solo'd many mini bosses but I only get a coin maybe 1/3 of the time. Is this supposed to be a guaranteed 1/1 drop?
  11. Skouros

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    Would you prefer Stealing and Stealth did not exist? Because that's what it sounds like to me, Kane.

    I support trackers and the right of players to play a tracker on one of their three accounts. What I think is bogus is that you would take issue with our existence and play style forcing you to use one. Its not forcing you to use one. In fact, its not even the easiest OR best way to counter us.

    If you want to make our lives harder why don't you switch your tracker character into a bank runner. Whenever an item drops like a hcoin or something nice, trade it to your bank runner, recall to bank, drop it, and come back.

    Or I don't know, use a locked box in your bag?

    Just like that you've severely SEVERELY restricted the value of our style of play. The best thing for a thief is maximum profit in a single steal attempt. If you spread your earnings way out and constantly bank them you're going to make the risk far outweigh the rewards for us.

    You need to re-evaluate your opinions about us. Thieves have it pretty hard most of the time. This event offers us very little other than stealing from people who are farming the spawns. When you're directly countering us like that you're destroying our chosen gameplay. We'd be hard pressed to do the same to you, wouldn't we? And would we even want to?

    Edit: Hell, if theres one simple ridiculous thing you can do that makes our stealing nearly impossible it is simply this: take your hcoin stack, split it into single pieces scattered throughout your main bag. Suddenly, no thief can take more than 1 coin of yours (per 10 seconds), and nothing else about how you play changes AT ALL.
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  12. Lightshade

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    First off, I love all the additions for the events. Its a lot of fun, in general, and I know the players are all excited about it.

    There is nothing difficult about setting up triple boxed tamers. I've done it before. As such, I see BlackEye's point about such fixed and predictable spawn points.

    They should be more varied in the future. UO was never meant to be about hitting "Play" in Razor.
  13. Vella

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    lmfao try surviving 3-4 man dumps of 3 diff chars as you are being cross targeted, Playing 3 tamers is not hitting go on razor, sucking at three tamers is hitting go. and please someone, show me 1 event that 95% of the rewards don't go to the same people? anyone?

    PS: Tracking Rapes Thieves, i would know, was not a tracker and got stolen from , became a tracker and the thieves don't even try anymore. "Clever eyes"
  14. Mes

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    as far as I can tell Telamon changed them up yesterday. This doesn't really change that people are playing multiple characters at once or camping these spots for hours at a time.

    But I don't see why any of this is cause for alarm.

    People have been killing mobs that respawn in one spot as long as I can remember. And there are bigger problems with scoring holiday coins than mobs respawning in convenient places. (that staff is aware of and I won't mention

    This event has been running for some time now and is coming to a close. It's not reasonable to expect Telamon to overhaul it when it's almost over. He's only got time to put a bandaid on and plan better for the next one. Right now we're demanding he treat symptoms and he needs time to treat problems.

    This has been a good event and let's try to enjoy it for what it is. Holiday coins are still going for twice what they were months ago - I think it's fair to say the drop rates are not too high.

    I was on the morning this thread was started and personally I think Blackeye was just ticked off that his thieving attempts were curbed by trackers. Each time he was caught stealthing he would recall out and make a stink in IRC.

    You have to be both vigilant and experienced to prevent thieving. And he was picking targets that are both. We knew the way he dressed, we recognized disquise kis names, and we tracked thoroughly. To be honest he broadcasted his presence to me by running by me before attempting to stealth in (and i recognized him instantly since he wears special hued items and masks and rides an ethereal.) From that moment on we were prepared to look out for him.
  15. Kane

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    I'm not sure what you're on about skouros, he wasn't even able to get within 10 tiles of my tamers as I was there on a stun\tracker mage and I put him down when he came through the GY sparkle. I don't care if people play thieves, just don't cry when people massacre you for being one.
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    This is usually due to the fact that these same people play literally 12-18 hours per day, every day.
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  17. BlackEye

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    Lies. Simple, stupid lies from Kane (I got your dirty 12 hcoins in my bag, you moron, stop lying. You were 1) too lazy to move your ass to a bank before knowing I was around and 2) got your hcoins only back due to your all kill spam and your 6 dragons).
    Less stupid, more clever lies wrapped up in truth by Mes (so convenient, to change the topic to personal thief-related matters that have nothing to do with the OP, eh? Instead of that, you could start explaining why you oppose less-static spawns and more spread of hcoin drop rates).

    This event is running for at least another week and the fact, that people cant simply fortify the entrances of the houses after the change to less static spawns is a great success. I am glad, this change came fast.
  18. Kane

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    I've got the screens of you getting chopped in vesper and in glow, you never once got away with coins. I don't understand why you feel the need to lie about it, I'm sorry you got beat, now get over it.
  19. BlackEye

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    I am not lying, you are, or perhaps your deficite of sleep is just too big. I got 12 of your coins and died to your dragons and not because you were so extremely wise to have trackers around. I also have died several times with trackers around on other encounters. Dying is normal for any thief and there is no need to lie about it.

    You guys are changing the topic constantly: read the OP. Many non-thieves agreed to it and staff already changed it. This certainly didn't happen because everybody started loving thieves. It happened because some lame-asses could camp the heck out of an event that is supposed to be something else than a "start macro and get rich" event.
  20. Mes

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    Simmer down.

    Not everything I said was related to the original post, although I did respond to exactly your complaint.

    Whether you consider it clever or lies I don't really care. I came here to make two points-

    1. That Telamon has addressed the original post and made the minibosses move- so we no longer needed to debate it. I was hoping to inform Lightshade because it sounded like he was not aware.

    2. That there is a story behind this post that you left out. A morning of frustration and raging on IRC that motivated this post. This isn't lies or misdirection to inform people about where all this anger is coming from. It's my opinion that you were frustrated - I formed this opinion from watching you rant at length that morning about factioners ruining the event and taking over the area and it not being fair. An hour or so later you made this thread. You still seem angry.

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