Patch 73 - Feburary 13th, Valentines Event, Combat Changes & More!

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Wait... so the CUB program is designed to improve the server speed and stability so it benefits everyone (Idea being, cut down the item count so the system doesnt have to work as hard)...... Cynic, you've been hoarding items so when the CUB program goes live you can turn them all in?.. Talk about a team player! Kinda sad dude, Chris is trying to solve problems and improve the server.. in turn your stashing items...

Thanks for all you do Chris, seems like a lot of work to keep the server running - I appreciate what you do!

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fair enough, I don't wanna turn this thread into a locked one... let's leave it at that or feel free to PM me..

it's nice to get the updates and i don't wanna to rail road the thread.

You will have to do that and. You will have to manually drag items from your bags in order for them to be cub verified

@Chris has mentioned that anything associated with moats would cost plat. Then he said free. Then I've heard rumors of it costing CUB coins. If you go on the dev server now you'll see that it looks like it'll be CUB coins.

I've hoarded on this server since day 1, and at first it was accidental. I used to keep everything thinking it would hold value as either decor or a noob needing some force weapons, etc.. After learning how CUB was going to be implemented it just made sense to keep everything. 90% of the items I have in bags holds vendor value, as I've argued in previous threads about this, so if CUB doesn't work out in my best interests then I'll slowly but surely vendor each bag. Even if I got rid of everything the system would still be created, I just would be behind the curve. If you're going to blame me for server performance then you can't ignore the people, me included again, that have thousands of items of decor which also create issues. I think this will be the last time I try and defend my stance on CUB, you either agree with me or not, either way I don't lose any sleep.

This is not entirely accurate. See, I was invited to test CUB (since I have a CUB house) and it's really as simple as dragging and dropping a bag of items into a barrel. As I understand the system, you'll be able to create/purchase/obtain a CUB "trash" barrel for your house where you can drag and drop items/bags. Every item you barrel has a CUB coin value and you're displayed a running total within the CUB gump. My question relates to whether I can deposit those coins into a bank and then transfer them or sell them as I see fit, or if those coins are just numbers that are forever associated with that specific house where the barrel is placed. See, with the welfare plat system, you will see platinum in your [wallet. You can then deposit your [wallet into your bank and obtain platinum coins. I'm wondering if it'll be the same concept.

I hadn't seen any of the other discussions, but nice to know I'm not alone in my way of thinking! .the joy of UO... play however you want do what ever you want...

ok I will take all my gold and buy ingots and churn out heating stands 24 / 7. i think i can produce 8m or so heating stands. because you know eventually all the shit that didnt make it into cub,will, so I might as well stock up right?

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I couldn't have written it better myself. Every item of CUB I own is server generated. The server generates a chest with 95 pieces of armor then I'll have a bag somewhere with the contents of that chest. Not for the purpose of anything other than it holds value, either for CUB or sold back to a vendor. I acknowledge that server performance is an issue, I even cleaned up my fort of thousands of items of decoration to help (even though it really won't).

A. I don't think you can sell crafted heating stands, but I understand the point.
B. Can't CUB crafted items anyway.
C. Telamon has stated that those who generate items for the purpose of effecting server performance would be dealt with.

@Erlkonig - If you're worried about server performance and people keeping what you may consider junk then you should talk to Mes about cleaning up his fort roof. There's a database which memorializes every kill, keeping heads in that capacity at this point in the game is, IMO, hoarding junk.

But, I am willing to concede that one man's garbage is another man's treasure. So at the end of the day I don't care about your house with thousands of heads, Azoth's house with thousands of items of deco, or my house with CUB. Not to mention all the other houses in between with stacked tables, CY's full of boxes, millions of stacked pieces of cloth, etc..

Complaining about my CUB, on this server, is equivalent to the hippie complaining that my pick up truck is a detriment to the Earth.

Guys, make a new thread, sorry I started down this road.. Let's move it to trash talk... these patch threads are great to get lets not fuck that up.

Players generate items from GMing crafting skills. Time was spent gathering resources, making gold, and spending gold on said resources. I would wager they more often trash barrel all that crap instead of hording or selling it. What does it matter in which direction gold flows?

Who said I was a fullonrapist?

I wouldnt be doing it with malicious intent, I would only do it for the future addition of player crafted items to CUB because those people, the crafters that I mentioned, will be hording the moment CUB hits and fuck it, end game goals right? Im sure as shit not going to go mibbin'.

Less than 2,500 heads, really?

High VISIBLE item count is easily fixed. And I bet you 90% of that lag that people run into when running around would disappear with just 1 easy trick. Only load houses when you step into them! Instead of the server having to send packets all the fucking time it can send them only when "requested".

Couldnt the same be said with trash items pulled out of a chest?

I put in the effort doing whatever I did to generate piles of gold which I can turn into w/e I want. Im can roll coal just like you. Just a different path.

Honestly I don't care. I told Telamon how to do this correctly but he never listens.

Assign point value based on resource cost, difficulty curve, and apply bonus for magical property. Looted items would inherently be more valuable than player crafted, with some exceptions (some runics and colored armors?). This would also increase resource gathering which leads to a better market - with this change I would also reduce ingot & wood availability on vendors to facilitate a stronger player market. Scale the point value for semi-rares + unique with the current and acceptable market prices and update as you see fit.

I am okay with @Cynic hording anything he wishes. If he wants to keep all those pink doublets, its okay by me.

In general, though, I think we should kill him.

*levels sharp pointey stick at Cynic*

I like to exaggerate that I keep everything, I really don't keep as much as I possibly could. It boils down to magic armor, magic weapons, and shipwreck items.

I don't keep bags of crafted junk or pink doubles.

I just recently started keeping zero charge wands and completed tmaps/amibs.

All in all I own one patio with probably 300-400 bags. In the grand scheme of things I'm a blip on the radar.

The reason it got this bad wasn't because I started hoarding from the get go. See, when I used to farm I would store all the items in bags. When the bags got full I would item ID the bags and sort accordingly. After amassing wealth I became lazy and stopped sorting the bags. I just didn't have a need for the force weapons anymore. I just never stopped looting out of habit. Then I was introduced to the magical wonders of what CUB may bring. At that point it became clear that I just couldn't barrel/vendor all of these bags, just in case. So, here I am, a blip on the radar and just waiting for the patch.

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