Patch 77 - September 12th, Guard Functionality Hotfix, Ocllo & Vesper Town Regions

I don't need to go into the house to access every vendor though.

The two houses had minimal risk as it was. Now it's 100% safe, combined with all npcs calling for guards fixed.

Way out of left field here, but why can we not pick vegetables and grapes?

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I agree that the owners of the houses near Ocllo should not be arbitrarily punished due to the unannounced change to their venues. However, they have been given a pretty big upgrade for nothing, and to be honest, those houses should really never been allowed that close to the bank in the first place, but that is neither here nor there.

What we have now are two vendor houses that red players cannot access anymore (as opposed to every single other vendor house that they can access). It doesn't matter if these houses provide some sort of community service to the new players of Ocllo as they are 100% player controlled and are for-profit in a massive way. If the houses were not vendor houses and were just private player houses, they would receive the same exact benefit of being in the guard zone regardless as to not providing any for-profit "community service". It will ultimately lead to other people asking "why do these players get houses inside a guard zone and nobody else does?"


Regarding the lack of pickable vegetables - very few veggies and fruits are actually harvestable it seems. I know you can't pick fruit from most apple or pear trees. Only ever found one tree that produces fruit out in the western Britain farmlands. It would be neat if these actually worked as intended.

Chris this is all fine do what you need to do but, as it stands there is 0risk to shop from these vendors because you can shop from outside

Once you have everything squared away please consider changing the guard line zones in ocllo so it does not give a select number of players a advantage over others on the shard

@Gideon Jura even though the inside of the house has no guard zone you can shop from outside in the full protection of guard zone. No other house on the shard has this.

I understand where @Chris is coming from and I am not saying it should be changed quickly. All I am asking is when he has figured out how to prevent mass town killing or finished whatever he is working on to change the zone lines so these homes lose there "godly" vendor status

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I do not care about the owners perceived value of there homes. These spots have a limited amount of VENDOR area. Only a certain amount of people will be allowed to have vendors in a guard zone. That is a huge advantage to anyone who is in the vendor game why would you shop anywhere else when you have a 0%chance of dying and a slim to none chance of being stolen from?

Can't you stand in guardzone around yew bank and access all of the vendors on the north side?


Or at yew gate access the PS vendors while in the safety of GZ?


Or brit gate?

Can reds still access this area? Are guards posted around the building? There is a difference between them

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Come stand on the tiles I am on in these pictures and we will find out.

/me yells GUUUUAAARRRDDDSS

What restrictions? Are you going to oversee any trade between the owner and a buyer if they ever choose to sell? Are you putting some sort of cap on the potential trade value of the house? Can they only trade to someone who you personally vet?

So you basically give these two players a free guardzone in the HOPE that they might extend their altruism to others? It doesn't matter if they do or not; hell, they could just pack up the vendors and use their house as a private place and it wouldn't change this situation. (This is not a dig at the owners of the houses, but the whole situation is kind of wacky)

That is great, and Rezon is a good guy, but none of those houses just magically got a free guard zone around them. Again, the motives of the players owning the houses really should not be a factor because ultimately, houses change hands and motives and intentions can change.

I had one, too, it was located right inside the south wall of Trinsic, was my first house and I could walk underneath it due to the hilly terrain. They were grandfathered very early on and at no point hence had OSI generated a guard zone around existing houses, so there is no precedent for it (this is coming from over a decade of playtime starting in Beta going all the way to Stygian Abyss)


@El Horno - The primary differences between the Yew shops and the Ocllo ones are that the Yew ones didn't magically get a guard zone put all the way around them suddenly.

The houses are surrounded in guard zone you could not kill anyone if you really wanted to. But this is not the point. The Point is the houses are inside guard zone making them a lot better most of the other houses. And keep in mind these houses were already a lot better than most other vendor locations.

See I can still get near enough to cast on you. And yes you can call guards but there is the difference you called guards not a automated bot that calls guards .0001 after the spell was cast

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Of course! unless pickin' carrots constitutes murder and greenhouses are prisons for slaves.
*cough* sorry.

For one who lives off the land, I kind of miss harvesting these old crops; feeding my horse when needs be or just enjoying some water-mel-lone.