Poll : Spell Delay Whats Your Opinion?

Hmm, okay. I guess that answers my question.
Why do you act like talking about it is a bother to you if you keep bumping the thread?

Because I am anti social.

And trying to keep attention on it. Apparently my opinion doesn't matter, according to reports. So getting other people on board is the only way I can think of to facilitate a change.

If I start playing somewhere, and after a period of establishing what I need/want to play. Then slowly watch things change to exactly the way they were from where I left... I'm going to be pissed off.

I agree. Slow down Heal and Greater Heal.

I've always thought that the spell damage delay is a bit long. Especially without insta weaponhit, it draws on mage duels for a very long time. While I enjoy living longer than a combo+hally or heavyxbow hit, running someone out of regs/potions/etc. is less enjoyable. I weigh in as what I would enjoy because I was 14 for 'era accurate' and lots has happened in life since then to remember this item I probably didn't even think to notice, then.. :geek:

Your opinion does matter, but not enough for it to be changed I would think.
My concerns with faster spell damage are this:

A faster damage resolution time on EB will enhance the efficacy of tank mages substantially. It's already the best template on the server, and the ability to hold the halberd (or war hammer in your case) and then release the EB at the same time the damage lands will make a combo that will nearly kill people instantly.
It makes it easier for people facerolling EB to be effective. I'm personally opposed to all forms of facerolling. You can interrupt a heal with EB, but you have to anticipate enough to be ready for it and then react to it quickly. If you can't do that, you should have to use a faster low level spell.
Faster damage resolution will make it much easier to interrupt recalls and will make it harder for people uninterested in fighting to get away from PKs. Even though I'm a reasonably prolific PK, I'm not really in favor of this. I think the balance between people getting away and not is currently fine. People who are vigilant and prepared can escape, and those that aren't usually don't.

For the record, we do have insta hit here.

But I don't want to derail the topic in an explanation. Just noting that we have instant weapon hits.

Seems like this is one of the few times your posts aren't passive aggressive and sulky, so I wanted to be sure I read it and responded to it fully.

I think this is pretty standard. I think if someone begins casting ebolt you should easily be able to greater heal under it. Maybe even two depending on your timing. I do believe that damage spells should have varying amounts of delay. I think there should be some spell that can add damage but stands some chance at disrupting greater heal, but won't do so easily. That's why I'm in favor of a lightning that resolves a little quicker. In fact I'd say instantly, although it should probably only be able to do damage barely above the minor heal range.

Nobody watches people recall away more than me, and I don't really have an issue with this. I do think you and I just disagree on whether or not there should be a delay from a spell being targetted to damage being resolved. I know that pretty much any spell but explosion is likely to interrupt a recall if you have it prepared and run up on the target and they see you and begin casting it.

This one is totally era accurate and accurate for AoS too. I think it's important for magic arrow because it stops people from spamming it to interrupt spells. Magic arrow with low delay and stacking would mean that you could keep someone from curing indefinitely. I think harm fits this niche better since it's the same length as cure and requires the caster to keep getting closer if they want damage.

I agree completely that I think fireball and lightning could stand some shortening. I'd like to see a fireball that lands a little quicker and a lightning that lands instantly like harm (although in the case of lightning it may need a slight damage reduction, I'm unsure.)

This is probably true, and duels were definitely taking too long. They might still be taking too long. But I'm not sure if its the mechanics or the players now. Before the recent spellcasting tweaks Ezekiel invited some players to test them and he smoked everyone using the current mechanics and at that time dispelled any fears I had. In fact the majority of the time I couldn't cure at all and I was trying to find excuses like latency to explain it. He seemed to have no trouble surviving, however.

Some of these are exaggerations. You can't cast gheal faster than any damage spell can land. You can't target yourself a full second after the graphic hits your character and get it under the spell. I would say damage resolves briefly after the time it takes an energy bolt to travel to a character (that isn't moving and is relatively close). So yes you often see it hit and a fourth second later the damage resolves and that doesn't make a lot of sense.

You may very well be right that some spells would fit combat better with shortened delays. I definitely think fireball and lightning should be on that list. Maybe energy bolt. I think mindblast and flamestrike should stay where they are. I wouldn't even mind if mindblast was a tiny bit longer delay.

I think Ezekiel proved that the current mechanics are pretty solid. I wish you had been there for that, really. I know Liberation was. If you approach the admins the right way its possible they'll set up some of your requested changes on test center and invite some players to test it out. It's obvious you aren't quitting this server and it's obvious you aren't happy, so I hope you try using tact when you have a suggestion about game mechanics.

You're right, I was wrong. The delay feels totally natural and is fun to play. Must be correct if Ezekiel killed people.

These are exactly the kind of replies that aren't helpful at all to achieving your goals. It's like you are your own worst enemy.

Yeah, I was hoping to have an actual discussion on this. I'm legitimately curious as to why this is so important to you, past you wanting it or it being era accurate. Those seem to be the only reasons you ever come up with.

What do you want me to say? I've said everything three times already. And why do I need to explain it to you? You act like I need to present a case like I haven't already given up and and feel that the amount of time and energy I'm willing to put into it anymore is to bump a thread once a weak.

Honestly its been the same 2 or 3 people replying about it consistently and I already know their opinions, I'm looking for fresh perspectives not reruns. I've had people tell me "I like reading your posts then trying to guess who the reply is, I'm usually right". So yeah, if you were looking for a discussion just re-read what has already been said, because it doesn't change just because you say it again.

You act like its just me but according to the vote it is quite the opposite.

I'm sorry if you don't agree with or like the way I present my ideas or opinions, but to be brutally honest I don't care. I'm not trying to make friends or take the admins on a date, I am trying to make it a better shard. And if because of personal reasons or dislikes towards me inhibit a change for the better, then I feel that really isn't my problem it's everyone's.

okay I see where you're coming from, carry on, I'll do my best to butt out

lol some things never change..

Like Double Vision never bringing anything to the table...

*yawn*

TLR, request a ban again you turd.

OK, sorry, I did actually read that. I'm glad you finally created a second internet, so you can have two. As you can see, A^T is doing really poorly ever since you griefed us soooo hard back before you requested a ban for yourself. Are you done buying up items on that shitshow you play now or did you go crawling back to Hybrid....again? Or did you finally find a shard that accepts you even when you cheat to get ahead by using illegal apps to loot corpses?


Thanks for stopping by to teach the new folks how much of a turd you are. Hope to see you in game again soon, but I doubt you'll enjoy it. Telamon could run technical circles around your pea brain. I hope he doesn't delete your post, because as usual, it is hilarious.

*yawn*

1: You never did
2: You definitely did
3: English. Do you speak it?


Keep it going nerd, Tater loves the bumps on the spell delay thread. I'm curious though, if you don't play UO at all anymore, why would you waste your time coming here to try and talk shit? Actually, I'm not curious. It's fairly obvious you know this is the best shard out there and you're still just butthurt that Telamon wouldn't pander to your weakness.

GG nerd, please come back so we can fight in game.

Edit: Trash talk.

How that satisfies you is beyond me. Perhaps you should seek help. I regret (not so much) to inform you however, my wife and I have worked things out and are happily back together. Did you have anything relevant to add or are you just jealous that you basically ran yourself off of every shard you ever played on?

I guess knowing that I don't fold up like a frustrated child and go hide in a corner whenever I don't get my way, is the only satisfaction I need.

PS: Spell damage delay needs some review and potential adjustments. LOVE YOU TATER!