Risk vs. Reward and the different templates

Discussion in 'Renaissance Discussion' started by Dalavar, Aug 6, 2015.

  1. Dalavar

    Dalavar Well-Known Member
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    Using your gas station analogy, it's more like: everyone pays $2.50 per gallon, but your buddy owns a gas station and lets you fill up for free. If I need to fill up my tank and I'm trying to figure out how much it costs, which is more relevant?

    Same here. Maybe Mes you "paid" by having someone's back in Factions, or cracking jokes on vent or something. Personally, I don't have a guild or game friends or any of that, so I know for certain that I am paying entirely in gp, and it has always cost me between 100k and 150k for a bonding slot.

    Let's be clear, I am not at all suggesting a weapon bond quest, it was someone else's idea that I pasted for the purpose of starting a discussion.

    Your idea is very cool. If I were to tweak the idea a bit, I'd suggest that if you die with your blessed weapon, it gets reset to 10/10 durability or something like that, so you need to fortify it back up and at least that costs you something. And if your pet dies, it loses the 2.5% of skills or whatever. So there is a penalty, a risk. But given the current mechanics of this shard, I feel like it's not something that could be fairly or reasonably implemented.
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    Well I'm legitimately finding out for the first time that all of you paid 150k(or highest trade forum rate at the time) for bonding slots every time. I know you don't play with a lot of people/guildmates so I suspected you had to pay for a run, but I am surprised to hear that people like basoosh and el horno and gideon paid 150k every time. There's certainly a channel full of SL people that never paid anything. I think Lib may have paid for a slot before. But I assumed that most active guilds weren't gouging each other for bonding slots.

    Truth is I highly suspect I'm not the only person that hasn't paid 240k to bond each of his dragons in this thread, but if you all say you did then that's that.
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    I've had two spots gifted to me by Avery, because she's just awesome. I've paid my way into two, one more that i contributed a bunch of animals to, and the last one I ran myself (mix of farming and buying animals for the last two). So a pretty mixed bag.

    But I don't think it matters how you get them. Someone did the work. If they gift you a slot, thats 150k they could have made on the open market.
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  5. Six.spirit

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    I've got 3 tamers, each with 10+ bonding slots each, just want to share my experience. I'm not in a big guild though I do hang around some popular ones to help out or to catch news of events, etc.

    I think the first few bonding slots I bought I paid 200k for and was happy to do it because it was difficult for me to find a spot. On the other hand, over time I've had some very nice people bring me along several times for slots in exchange for a few missing rare pets - a very good price.

    From my perspective, the average price of a bond slot is about 125k. Maybe if you consider the people who give out the slots to thier guildies or close friends then maybe the average is closer to 100k, or less. However, you can easily look at all the public tamer quests that get posted on the trade forums and see that quests asking for 150k get sold out, easily. There's usually a wait list of people hoping that someone will drop out or not show up so they can grab the spot.

    If it wasn't obvious from the first sentence of this post, I like bonding pets. Assuming pet stat loss at 2.5%, I think its fine. I think the problem isn't that tamers lose too little when they die, its that dexxers lose to much. Can we simply increase the amount of slayer weapons that get dropped? What if Dark Ones dropped some kind of crafting material that allowed Blacksmiths to craft repond properties onto their weapons, and similarly with other bosses or whatever. Something for dexxers to hunt bosses for in the same way tamers hunt for peculiar meat.

    Also, buff fire horns for 4x bards! :)
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    Newer players getting gouged on the trade forums is how we establish the worth of something?
    I didn't pay shit for my bonding slots, and many of you here are much fatter cats than I.
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    I truly think that's the difference, I have given out 3 tamer quests and easily 100-150 pec meat within SL. I personally don't believe in charging friends (although a few have given me gold for such things out of stubbornness).
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    This is just getting silly now. People are arguing just for the sake of having an argument.
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