Thought we were friendly?

Discussion in 'Project Sanctuary [P'S]' started by Cordelia Black, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. Cordelia Black

    Cordelia Black Well-Known Member

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    Since i left two weekss ago ive been spending an average of 30k a day on 2-4 new players and showing them that they can PM me or anyone in ps chat.
    Me and krake and everyone are/were cool as far as i know.

    Along with Doctor satan..
    Cha is a member i met about 2 years ago. Or longer. We were good friends. Im swedish ,hes finnish.
    Now he was rude twice in chat to me but i have no logs so disregard that.
    A new player i helped was afraid he wouldnt be taken serious if i didnt tag some people, after he asked if i myself wanted the item.
    I tagged every Smith BOD i know and made my own bid. I have a limit sure.

    http://uorforum.com/threads/wts-15-valorite-platemail-tunic-exceptional.20141/page-2

    His accusation is not ok,and why the fuck would a friend do that?
    and considering how harshly i was dealt with public displays unbecoming,
    i hope such an accusation gives birth to a sincere apology,a warning or whatever like with me.. and some fucking manners,Cha..old "Friend".

    @Lord Krake
    @Cherie
    @DoctorSatan
    @Cha

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    Removed cause cha.
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  2. Lord Krake

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    I think you took what he said out of context; it looks like a jest to me, considering we both know Cha and it seemed playful enough.

    But I am not the social police here. I completely understood why you were tagging folks you knew in that thread; so you can see if they needed the item.

    It looks to me like you read it, posted something, then thought about it more and it got under your skin so you posted again, calling him and asshole and telling him to fuck off and all that. This is pretty par for the course for you Cordelia; you fly off the handle too easily at the slightest hint of personal insult.

    And no, our channel is very active still, thanks.
  3. Cordelia Black

    Cordelia Black Well-Known Member

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    well,based on past experiences since my return i believe it was not in jest. The first post yes. The accusation,now. That smile was an insult on his part.
  4. Cordelia Black

    Cordelia Black Well-Known Member

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    And cha can accuse a former member of rigging/shill bidding and its ok? double standard much? im sure theres a line about that in the PS guidelines and rules? as i was told myself.

    par for the course for me?
    Were friends too Krake. I still,untill today,helped new players in PS chat..ill still find them in ren chat,thats where new players arrive first. so not gonna stop helping..cause thats the par for my course..have like 4 or 5 members of yours housed and funded to over 100k total in regs and gear. not to mention the gold,and the value of the houses. but how often have i mentioned that in all the time we have known each other? i do it cause i feel good doing it. To be kind.

    par for course for me is kindness. And odd humour...Why come at me with that comment? :/
  5. Lord Krake

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    No Cordelia, par for the course for you is flying off the handle and taking things way out of context, using vulgar and highly insulting language, and then thinking you did nothing wrong. Yes, you might also be helping people on a regular basis, but that doesnt excuse you from how you act when you think people are out to get you.

    I dont want you to associate yourself with any part or person in PS anymore. Dont tag me, or any one in my guild from now on. You have simply gone past what my limit it.

    You have become the definition of toxic and people simply dont know how to handle you anymore.

    I hope I am being clear: do not associate with PS or use us in any conversation from here on out.

    This ends our relationship.
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    Sometimes I feel bad for living a hermit lifestyle after disbanding C^V.

    Then kind people remind me why I do, and I feel better. Thanks!
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  7. Cordelia Black

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    agreed but inform new members that if they live in any house of mine they have 7 days before i remove access. anyone with items who misses the timframe can pm me and colleect their stuff. Thanks for nothing,every single one of you who did nothing to contradict Krake or even agree with him but offer me some support. Yes,krake,i agree with all your requests.


    edit: question though,
    2 or 3 people in ps ive known forever and have on facebook etc..im supposed to not even facebook with them? If so,you deliver that news cause i know one person that will be devastated if we cant talk,but i wont tag or name why since i agreed not to...but i wont explain removing them from facebook and ignoring them in chat.
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    I talk to on audio and video and play with 2 of these people daily or a few times a week. If ,and i doubt it,youre gonna make em not talk to me on FB or ingame or in IRC. Then you give them that order,not me, i dont want them to think i gave up on them. And one ,i agreed not to tag but the person knows who,or both of them..well it would devastate them and for one of them it might have some minor rl consequences due to the nature of our contact outside FB. So how will it be? :/ I dont think you would go that far. Just ingame. yes? If so,again agreed to all your requests/terms.

    Does this cover it,or did i miss to agree to something? I re.read and edited to make sure nothings unclear ,too hostile or misunderstood ( me not getting the persona non grata message from you ). I believe we have nothing further to post?
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  8. Cha

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    I was going to let this be since I know its going fuel you even more. Just want to point it out buddy that it was merely a joke and was supposed to be funneh but apperently it got under your skin, so I am TRUELY sorry about hurting your feelings. With all the respect in the world try to chill a bit more in games since they are supposed to be fun. Also could had just pm'd me or Krake or whoever instead of making a shit storm all over the place not sure if its really working on your way. Also don't talk to me about manners or at least read your posts before you do. Anyway no hard feelings. <3
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  9. Cordelia Black

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    we arent meant to talk. Same to you though,the last part.
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  10. Cordelia Black

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    Saddens me that not a single member will come to say something nice ,Krake i know has nothing nice left to say and wether hes right in that or not i cant say,our private convos ought to remain private. But i helped a certain dr @DoctorSatan get the perhaps rarest WW in the game(1 stat from perfect,maybe best on shard,worth 1 or 2 mil? 2 weeks ago or so? I asked for nothing in return i said i just enjoyed your company). You have NOTHING kind to say about me here? Or couldnt just tell cha "Nah Cordelia isnt a shill bidder" and ended it all there rather than here no. Great friend you are.

    Ive helped so many people and asked for nothing. And nobody can even say a nice word here or in the other thread,except Cha..the guy i took a dump on? Friends ive known for months or over a year. Shame on you! And if you were online and aware while this happened and watched this thread,and you considered yourself a friend. Never contact me again. Even if Krake changes his mind a year from now. We are no longer friends,cause you just stood by and said nothing. And i dont mean argue against krake,just back me up on the good ive done for petes sake!!

    I will post no further here nor in the overall forum or IRC to any ps member,and only await an answer from krake regarding the longtime friends that are tied to my RL via FB and phone etc.

    Yeah i tagged a PS member. Are you gonna kick me from PS now?

    and @Lord Krake
    "People dont know how to handle me" ? Half your leadership and over 10 members have written asking me if we can still be friends and that they certainly dont agree. But you will deny this because you are so far out of touch,you only meet new members that i mainly recruited once,on the stone. Maybe on a quest.

    Everyone else is doing the mentoring,housing,funding,how to make macros etc..
    youre like the general in the 18th century choosing instead of leading from the front,to lead from beyond the horizon. You dont even know what your talking about. You say my claims are false..they came from your "inner circle" you idiot.

    Oh i tagged another ps member... Am i not allowed to join PS now? Since you really wanted me back.
    Im not being toxic btw. My mother is now dying in the hospital. I am taking out my anger for you being a twofaced,egotistical,lying fuckface. Anger.

    There is nothing vile or toxic in me anywhere. I can get angry,anyone can. I have 4 or 5 times in 4 years here. For sure. That aint vile my "friend",or toxic. Thats normal.
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    /me *hugs*
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  12. Lord Krake

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    Cordelia,

    you can be friends with whoever you want on FB. I have no say over that at all, nor should I, nor will I ever.

    I wont even be mandating that PS members dont talk to you, or adventure with you, because that is their choice and I have no rights in their life either.

    I should have been more clear in terms of what I expect in regards to you and PS from here on out:

    Dont use PS or our members in conversations that dont involve them, with out their expressed permission. Dont rely on us to support you in any arguments or proof that you are engaged in.

    Dont tag any PS member in any post from here on out, with out first asking them privately if that is okay.

    Dont tag me, personally, in anything anymore.

    So this is all having to do with you interaction and relationship with PS and its members, and nothing to do with who you want to be friends with out side of this video game.

    I still hope for the best with you and your life and gaming, despite everything I am saying. But I hope that I am clear on this; more clear that before.
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    This sounds like a call to arms!

    WTB a list of all PS members forum accounts so I can tag them in every post I ever make.

    (For real, get at me.)

    Sorry... I actually don't even know how I got here....
  14. Cordelia Black

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    read updated edited posts earlier i added more information.

    And since im not a PS member,though i agreed to your terms,Krake... What if i break em once in a month or two? You gonna kick me from PS? Im not a member. I agree cause i am infact kind,not vile and toxic. But i am angry atm. So i am not following the agreement in this thread,right now. But dont worry...i wont go vile and toxic and spout about you or the guild on the forums and tag you or insult anyone in a trade thread or whatever. Cause thats vile and toxic..

    oh yeah, same day i got the conflict with cha i found out my mother is gonna die,my last living relative that i have had any contact with since age 6. Same day Cha wrote the post i maybe overreacted to but he accused me ,maybe in jest i didnt think it was i could be wrong if so im sorry Cha. But ofc im easy to anger when i find out my last living family member and mother is gonna die very likely. Nothing here is vile and toxic in this thread. Its sorrow,betrayal,anger and sadness.

    Betrayal that not one member after all ive done,has come in to say something nice about me,even if they dont want to disagree with krake they can mention what ive done for them and wish me well?

    I find you far more vile than me.. All of you that i helped or who called me a friend,who read this thread and remained silent. You are the vile and toxic ones,with no backbone at all. You didnt even have to defend me. Just a fucking thank you and goodluck in the future?

    You embody nothing of the spirit of PS. Nothing.
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  15. Cha

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    Sorry to say sir but are you just blind? And you honestly come posting here some screen on how many peoples you have helped? Should we all post our logs here, no. We do it because we enjoy it and want to. Not to make a wall of fame of it and get some epeen up. Sure you've helped a lot of people and guildies aswell. But when you flip out and go in to an total BERSERKER mode time to time theres not much people can do. And you honestly think someone comes here praising your good deeds when your in a total flip out mode? We help out people thats what PS does. 95% of PS members does that its not a suprise there.

    Other than that. I'm sorry about your mom... I know how you feel and wish you strenght in that. My father DID die around 6months ago without a warning and yes he was basicly my last relative from the ones I actually talk and my bestfriend, still I didnt came here and tell everyone to fuck off and die. So sorry not getting any points from that from me at least. Handle IRL as IRL it comes first. Games are for fun. I rest my case and I wont continue this e-drama thread anymore.

    I sincerely hope you get things sorted in IRL and ingame and I wish you the best of luck on that.
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  16. Cordelia Black

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    i posted it here to counter krakes point that im vile, i have never even mentioned how many of your members live or lived in a house i own,or how many i helped. I didnt mention that ever in my time in PS. I mention it ONCE here. In response to krake calling me vile and toxic.

    Cha shut the hell up about things you dont know about. If you were truly joking in that thread i apologize but butt the fuck out of this part of the discussion cause you do not have over 2 years or whatever how long i have been in PS nor do you know half as many people as i have known in PS for longer than you say you have played here. You do not know what the hell i am talking about,or what they are,and you jump in and shitpost.

    Butt the fuck out,and accept my apology if you truly were joking, My mother is dying which i found out right before i read your post about me trying to "rig" an auction. I would fucking never ever do that. I dont even PK ffs.
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    But not many helped as often as me,everyday,all im saying. I dont deserve to be called vile and toxic for all of that kindness ive done just because i enjoy it.
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    i didnt tell anyone to fuck off and die. I told you and krake to fuck off but i may have been misstaken earlier telling you to do so,now i dont feel that way.

    im not gonna tag these people for their sake,mine and everyones.

    but many many PS members and people in the leadership/inner circle have asked that they hope this thread wont mean i will not talk to them. Or that they dont agree/care with some comments made about me being : vile. Toxic. "Impossible to handle".


    Deny it all you want, i still talk to them in IRC ,facebook and audio/video. Go ahead Krake,try and deny it. So no Cha. I have not told everyone to fuck off. You are again to young in PS to even be involved in this discussion where you are clueluess.

    Thank you for your kind words.

    I also lost my uncle which is why i was on hiatus.
    Before that my father,
    before that my little sister. So i will still thank you and do as you, and even in anger offer some kind words. I am truly sorry for your loss, even if i tell someone to fuck off i dont want them to suffer,die,or loose a loved one. Again,truly sorry for your loss cause i am in that emotion right now,so i understand the pain that i now remember with a numb feeling, of loosing a parent. @Cha i think Krake will forgive me tagging you here as this last part i really wanted you to read. I think you understand. :)


    Edit:
    and im not even saying you 3 are ACTUALLY horrible people.
    Just that,in particular krake, i find him to be horrible. But i know hes a nice guy. I just cant think or feel that.
    You i know are nice and very actively helpful in PS chat, but i again, cannot like you at this point.
    Doctorsatan was my first and oldest friend. He could have come in to that trade thread and did as i asked him,tell you that i dont shill bid and wether you joked or not,i believe you would take his word on that considering 2 weeks earlier i got him a white wyrm 1 stat from perfect,worth 1-2 mil but asked for nothing in return. I said and i quote " I just enjoy the company and adventure ". But he couldnt even back me up that im not a shill bidder? And now we are here.

    And hes such an awesome guy..like doctorsatan should be named Doctorangelawesome thats how nice he is.
    But he has lost my friendship forever,and maybe i have lost his i dont know because i will never write,tag or respond to him ever.

    My harsch words to you three are MY truth,not the actual truth of who and what you are. Infact you are all nice people ,above the average on the shard. But i no longer think so. That is my truth alone.
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  19. Cordelia Black

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    There is no berserker mode,i had to leave PS for vulgar language in the trash talk forum.
    you falsely accused me of shill bidding in trade forum. I asked PS/Krake to merely punish you or even more useful, to retract the post and apologize.

    Or option 3,if it was a joke, edit the post with a "Just kidding". Thats what my first post,before editing,was asking for. So you can understand that i felt a bit of a double standard being applied and that i was owed an apology or a clarification in that trade post. So you can understand my anger
    when i get 0 response ,And in krakes next post i got told to fuck off basically.

    After that i did edit my first post many times very angrily. True. But i came in peace first,and tried to be polite and tag the leadership to look at the trade post. But whatever. There is no berserker mode. Lets bring the tone down below aggressive and maybe end it here? or if you wish to reply,we keep it a bit more civil and less with insults from not just you cha or me but anyone reading at this point-.
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